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Expose: Lisa Lake & Abraham Shorey

Posted in Cornell University by Elliott Back on November 4th, 2004.

Abraham J. Shorey told the Cornell Daily Sun today that, “he was not the Creeper, and that the Ithaca Police Department was simply trying to pin the blame on someone.” He feels that he is a scapegoat for the Collegetown Creeper case, and that the Ithaca Police Department wanted closure over justice. “I’ve been at the wrong place at the wrong time,” he said.

His wife, Lisa Lake has engaged in an interesting campaign on his behalf. Speaking to the Cornell Daily Sun, she says, “He’s being accused of all these things he hasn’t done. The Creeper needs to be known and it’s not Abe.” And this isn’t the only war she’s raging. Look at Lisa’s comment on the Sun’s article:

HE IS INNOCENT, HE DOESN’T FIT THE DESCIPTION OF THE CREEPER AND HE HAS 6 CHILDREN THAT HE LOVES VERY MUCH. HE HAS ALIBIES OF WHERE HE WAS AT. HE WAS NOT CREEPING ON WOMEN. PLEASE PEOPLE, HE DID ACCIDENTLY WALK INTO VERONICA’S ROOM BECAUSE HE WAS INTOXICATED AND LOOKING FOR THE DOOR THAT WOULD LEAD TO THE STAIRS. COME ON PEOPLE DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ

friend
MAMABIGTREE@YAHOO.COM

I get a sense of desperation from Lisa Lake’ post, written in all caps, full of spelling mistakes and grammatical issues. This is interesting in light of a MSN Groups post made by Lisa Lake on 3/11/2004:

Hey this is mama ISA, has anyone seen Abe? He was last seen heading to Sedona, he has blond dreadies and a northface black isis pack, Me and his 5 kids have not heard from him in a month, I am expecting my 6th child, so you figure the stress is a little bit too much for me. Does anyone know where he is?

Of course, that post is a dead-end, as looking up Lisa’s MSN Profile gives me:

Can’t Find Member Profile
The nickname you have selected belongs to a user who is no longer a member of this group.

The last bit of information about Lisa Lake is a forum post on Jan. 30 2004 under the alias “mamaisis:”

Greetings from cold ny, mama isa checking in with yall. Kids are all doing great. I just got finished with the cosmic interdemsional gridwork of old growth trees, from the great sequias in the west, to my final destination of trees in central park, ny city!! Connecting and asking for forgiveness to the human race. It is time to unify the power of true eternal love and forgiveness, and yes we have the trees as a means of signaling and channeling our prayers and wishes!! I think it is time we gather with the ancient trees together and pray for the grand unification, purification, and forgiveness of all things. The national rainbow gathering is going to be in Northern Ca. I am willing to organize a way for all of us to gather with the ancient big trees and perform the most amazing ceremony ever!! FOR THE HEALING OF OUR EARTH< lets do it kin!! These trees know me well, and are ready for this, and I feel we are ready too!! contact me for more info, or post me something, mamabigtree@yahoo.com.. LOVE YA ETERNALLY ISA

She also posted this “anonymous” comment on my previous post:

Hey he is innocent, I can’t even begin to tell you how he does not even match the desciption of the creeper if you look and do research you would realize this is not the creeper. And he has 6 beautiful children that he loves, there is no way that he would jepordize these little ones. Look at his eyes and see that he is kind. If anyone reads this and knows ABe stand up for him, we need to catch the real creeper!!

Looking at Police Records more closely, we find that Lisa Lake and Abraham J. Shorey have had previous altercations with the Law. They go way back:

12:58 p.m. As Officer Goodale attempted to arrest Abraham Shorey of Arcata on an outstanding traffic warrant near the Intermodal Transient Facility, a woman identified as Lisa Lake of Arcata reportedly objected to her friend’s arrest and tried to persuade Goodale to release him. According to police, Lake refused to leave the area of the police car in which Shorey had been placed. Then, police say, a bystander identified as Kelly Kanzulak of Eureka ran up to where Goodale was struggling with Lake, and pushed him. Kanzulak and Lake were then handcuffed and arrested. Everyone except Goodale went to jail.

So, Abraham Shorey will abandon his pregnant wife with 5 children, so that she has to post messages on internet forums in an attempt to find him. Abraham Shorey has a history of illegal activities, traffic warrants–on up. And yet his wife defends him from Arcata Police, from readers of the Daily Sun print and online, and my blog. Why would the Collegetown Creeper’s wife have such strong feelings for this man?

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    I'm guessing her financial needs with raising six kids motivates her to protect him from incarceration.

    Perhaps she thinks 'creeping' isn't such a heinous crime.

    She could be battered or even brainwashed by an extreme 'religious' organization that has roots here in Ithaca. Some of that 'tree talk' points to that in my opinion.
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    Whatever is going on, it seems sad. I wonder when we'll know the whole story--I guess after trial, if the case isn't sealed.
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    Creeper's crept on! Abe Shorey did not show up for court today. Lisa Lake denys knowledge of his wherabouts (yeah, right mamabigtree!). I guess grandma's out 5G. If I were the creeper I would have stayed on lock down and had one of my rainbow pals creep while I was up in county, thus exonerating me in the eyes of C-town.

    Hey dude, turn yourself in. Life on the lam ain't easy!
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    you like talking about me!! awesome, yeh i don't know where abe is, but i know he is not in new york and there were 2 creepings on friday, he is deffinatley not the creeper! And you know what I love him dearly and forgive him, do you really know what life is for!! LIVE 2 GIVE AND LIVE 2 FORGIVE, CAN WE ALL FORGIVE ABE FOR LEAVING WHEN HE THOUGHT HE WOULD GO TO PRISON FOR SOMETHING HE DIDN'T DO! and then you don't even know how his life was, people you really must stop judging, you don't know me and you don't know my life, i can tell you one thing that will change your life if you are willing to listen, live 2 give true eternal love that is your purpose much love to all of you, ISA
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    A little more research shows the creeper is pretty creepy indeed. Lisa, Isa, momabigtree, or whoever you are, if you change my life like you changed the creeper's life, go hug some trees and stay away from me.

    On May 12, 2003 members of the Broome County Sheriffs Office were on routine patrol in the Village of Whitney Point. As they pulled into the parking lot of the Mobil gas station they noticed a vehicle parked in the parking lot which appeared disabled the vehicle had items thrown about the ground around it, around the vehicle were a Abraham J. Shorey 1-30-81 of Ithaca, New York and a Richard A. Rudolph Jr 3-4-79 also of Ithaca, New York As the patrol asked the subjects for their Identification, patrol noticed a bag of hallucinogenic mushrooms. Both of the subjects were placed into custody, and a subsequent search of the vehicle yielded another 15.2 grams of mushrooms that belonged to Richard Rudolph Jr Both subjects were arrested for Criminal possession of a controlled substance in the fourth degree a Class C Felony and were remanded to the Broome County Correctional Facility.
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    this is a bit late as Ab has probably left for California so he can be close to his kids but if by any chance he is still around the Ithaca police might want to check out a few places where he could be in hiding. Newharts Lodge is where Ab worked at the Musefest; Ed Lisbee's cabin in Newfield; the 12 Tribes commune where some of his buddies diappeared to; LevelGreen on rt79. I was told that 'they' were trying to get him into the 'commune', whatever that means. I hope i dont ilicit hate mail from Ab's friends; i just have a personal vendetta to work out after being lynched and run out of town by a group of well intentioned locals. Yes there are some very dangerous religious fanatics in the ithaca area and they were quite successful in making Ab into a martyr and everyone else a suspect who looked a little bit like him. Maybe people like Jabberwok owners should be more careful about whom they employ. Oops, now ive had it.
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    Abe Shorey was never a good father to his kids (only 3 of whom were his, if that-- Mama Big Tree was never picky about who she shared a bedroll with-- she was also sleeping with Richard Rudolph the Mushroom Smuggler). Many is the time that Isa was looking for her erstwhile baby daddy as he was out all night. Hmmm, where was he, d'ya think? Why, two nights after his latest spawn was born, did he disappear, leaving Isa to prowl the streets until she found him and had a screaming fight with him in the middle of Seneca Street?

    Isa and Abe have never been good at taking responsibility for themselves. They have children they can't care for (their house has always been a disgusting mess), refuse to work, steal from the Salvation Army, buy gourmet food at Greenstar with their food stamps, and in general leech off the tax dollars of people who work. They are hippy welfare royalty. Pity their children, who are innocent victims of reprehensible parents who don't give a damn about them. Isa allowed any random creep who needed a place to crash to babysit them, so god knows what abuse they've suffered.

    Abe Shorey is guilty. I hope he is caught before he can break into some other innocent woman's room. I also hope he doesn't move on to rape, which is where he was heading. Shame on both of them.
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    The Ithaca Police have exact information on Lisa's (Isa's) whereabouts. She is in California staying with her real father, who is a druggie himself, and never contributed one penny to her upbringing. Lisa was raised by her real mother and a loving step-father. Her step-father has now dis-owned Lisa because of her evil deeds. However, her mother still falls for Lisa's BS and can't bring herself to grips with reality.

    It's quite obvious the IPD has no real desire to find Abe.

    Also, the father of Lisa's first two children (if that- Mama Big Tree was never picky about who she shared a bedroll with) is now living with Lisa at her father's house.

    Lisa takes advantage of everyone that she comes across. She cares about one person; Lisa. She lies better than Scott Peterson. The police don't want to hassle with Lisa because she has six kids. That's work, and the police would rather sit around the doughnut shop and brag about a traffic ticket they just gave out. It's much easier that way.

    Someday Lisa will pay for her deeds, but only God knows when.
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    who is saying those thing about Lisa is totally uncalled far and total bullshit
    especailly when it is about me.You need to get a life
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    Isa's mom... wow, you must be proud. Your daughter is uneducated, has 6 kids by at least 3 different men, refuses to work and thinks it's A-OK to suck up government benefits while denouncing the government and contributing nothing to society. Abe Shorey was a bad partner to her and an abusive or neglectful father by turns, but she never kicked him out or left him. It took him jumping bail to get him away from her (though God only knows if they're really apart or if he's just creeping around to see her).

    These people give hippies a bad name. They make regular, hardworking people consider voting Republican. I hope Lisa/Isa gets her tubes tied so she stops having babies she doesn't care about. And, no Mom, she DOESN'T care about them. When will Shine get the help he needs, hmmm?

    I'm with John Doe-- Isa has it coming and I hope she gets it, but I pity the children. They don't deserve her as their mother.
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    well, as a responsible mother of three fine, accomplished young adults and a hippie mama who met, befriended and at one point lived with Isa, here's what i have to say from my close observations: Abe Shorey is indeed a very seriously dysfunctioal person, due in large part from his horrible upbringing, something like 30 foster homes, and a sexually preditory father who vanished in much the same way Abe has..( although.he was a surgeon and a very accomplished professional btw.) To those of you who knew them, you also know that Abe connived and took full advantage of Isa's tolerance and compassion....that sad fact has happened to millions and millions of women, from hippies to highly educated professionals, and while it is easy to judge, and say cruel things in print, to further harm another person, as Fred has..... i can only say that she is a loving and patient mom, considering her stress levels. And yes, she always bought the best, freshest food for her kids, and cooks up delicious, nutritious meals for all of them everyday. If we all ate that well as children! And Mother's staying at home with their children are a great asset to our society, as all of her children are valued by Isa, and deeply loved. There are plenty of working mom's that can't give the kind of care and love that Isa gioves her kids. And yes, the governtment does help, thank God they can do something right!

    I just took care of my mother with Alzhiemers, full time, for around $2000.00 a month income form the state of California, to keep her from placement in a nursing home. Does this make me a bad person? When you are old fred, i hope you can afford to pay for full time nursing care, or your family, (if you have one) loves you enough to take care of you, or you may be sponging off the govt too.

    As for Isa's education, it may surprise you to learn she was a 4.0 student through high school, and is a very gifted writer....the day will come when her kids are all older in school, when she will be able to help other women, with her insights. God know's there are so many of us that fall victim to men's abuse of all kinds. Even *well-educated* women are battered, live with alcoholics that abuse the family etc. and hide the fact for years.... Isa has a very, very generous and giving heart, (her main flaw)....she gives away more than she keeps for herself, and is non- attached to material things...i admire her for her enthsiam and sense of faith in God and the universe. She has a wonderfully healthy outlook on life, and is on her way to much happiness and produtivity. Yes, she spent some very difficult years with Abe, and learned what she had to learn...Who among us hasn't had difficult times with people? as most people know today, we are not living in a 50's sitcom anymore.... Isa has been unfairly demonized in this forum, by association to Abes problems. I know her and she is as good a mother. Yes, at times,she was overwhelmed and yes, she tried many times to get free of Abe, but he literally would not leave... for good, and stay away. He made many attempts to come to grips with reality, but as any of you know, who have experienced friends or family with alcoholism or other addictions, they can destroy the entire family and can defeat the toughest of us..... and it is .ignorant to condem people by their social class, as dysfunctions of all kinds cover all economic classes....hippies to ultra working professionals all have dark sides....

    Yes, Abe was, at times, a neglectful, abusive and horrible father....sometimes he was loving and kind.... but Isa was caught in the cycle of trying to help and reform him...they met at a very young age and had a very deep and spiritual bond....but she is now on her own and thriving....and is very very glad to be free from him, and wants him to face his charges and serve whatever time he may have and get counseling...he is still young and his life can turn around.... for his childrens sake, Abe is like so many abusers, charming, warm and loving...full of hope and promise....just like alcohlics.....etc. His crimes were very sinister and sick, just as is battering or the other hidden social diseases many of us have to grapple with today. We are a community of people and we have to find ways to heal....it is difficult and frightening to be in a family that sick, but look around....dysfunction is everywhere. Some of the finest of us have brushed the cold shoulder of darkness, and that does not make us evil!!!! Isa is not responsible for Abe Shorey's actions!!! She tried her best and failed. She tried to save a man. One much much too damaged for her, and all of the people of Ithaca who tried in vain to get him to sraighten up! Myself included!

    I also happen to know that the Ithaca police were given his EXACT whereabouts recently, by those who traced him thru a network of friends, and did nothing to arrest him...in fact, the assistant DA has been fully briefed as to his whereabouts and has done nothing to follow the case up, and bring Abe in to face his victims. Pretty pathetic. I am sure people he terrorized would love to know that they are letting him skate... of course, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but in Abe's case, it all adds up, and as someone who observed his behaviour, i feel he fits this profile to a t.

    So the abuse goes on....the people he harmed deserve much better from the police and the DA of Ithaca!!! Isa and all of her friends want him brought to justice!!! Abe needs to be stopped, before he harms more innocent people. Perhaps the citizens of Ithaca will put some pressure on the DA to have him arrested, with state, city and street address they have on him!!!! (He was very easy to find!!!

    And yet, nothing has been done to bring him in, and they know where he is! Go figure!!!!

    I have profound compassion for all for them... Abe, for living in a self-induced hell, the people he harmed with his nuerotic compulsions, and for Isa and her family, Isa is a loving, caring person and i am going to be her friend forever.

    And to demonize her for having a messy house (at times) with 6 little kids is just pure ignorance. I cleaned that house all the time and it was trashed everyday, and cleaned everyday! The meals and love the kids got was far more important than a (constantly) tidy house! Only a man without little kids could make such a stupid condeming statement! ps.To the poster above: anyone who would refer to an innocent child as *spawn* is sicK! This is a beautiful, loved little girl, a child! Shame on you!
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    @Isa's True Friend, the word spawn means "Offspring occurring in numbers; brood" and is appropriate in this instance. Probably it's being used to make a mild point on the number of children.
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    Just a quick note on the above poster; John Doe and Fred Smith, I believe that this poster is actually Isa's step dad, who i was told over a year ago, was a controlling, manipulitive Ass, selfish to the core, and forbade Isa's mother to even see her own Grandchildren! The fact that he mentions her loving step father is ludicrous! He seems to be on a personal vendetta to try to hurt and shame her...and if cares about Shine as he states, where is his help? Hmmm? Isa's step father is an abuser! Shame on you!!! Hypocrite!!!
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    Just a quick note on the above poster; John Doe and Fred Smith, I believe that this poster is actually Isa's step dad, who i was told over a year ago, was a controlling, manipulitive Ass, selfish to the core, and forbade Isa's mother to even see her own Grandchildren! The fact that he mentions her loving step father is ludicrous! He seems to be on a personal vendetta to try to hurt and shame her...and if cares about Shine as he states, where is his help? Hmmm? Isa's step father is an abuser! Shame on you!!! Hypocrite!!!
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    Isa's True Friend, some items for your consideration:

    1. I am not Isa's step-father. I would never marry into that insane family. I am also not John Doe. That is a different person.

    2. Why can't Isa use birth control? No one forced her to have 6 kids. No one forces her to screw anyone who comes down the pike. Isa calls herself Mama Big Tree, but she doesn't care about the serious overpopulation problem on this planet, that she's sucking up resources without contributing anything in return. Isa is a baby machine AND a public health risk, considering all the promiscuous unprotected sex she has with random people. You act like having babies was out of her control, but that is just NOT so.

    In 2005, every woman can be responsible for her own reproductive life. I do not pity her, her poverty, or her stress level due to having 6 kids. That was her choice and she has to live with it and make it work. It should not be society's job to feed, clothe, house, and sponsor the lives of children born out of negligence and carelessness. These children were accidents, and no child should BE an accident.

    3. Isa had MANY opportunities to get away from Abe. He would disappear for days at a time, and she would search him out, chase after him, beg him to come back. He left the state, but she had him return. She defended him against the charges of being the Creeper, when any sane woman who wanted to get away from him would have seized the opportunity to escape, but instead she publicly stood up for him. Those are not the actions of a woman trying to escape.

    4. As for Isa being a giver-- yeah, to some people. Dirtbags, hippies who wouldn't take care of themselves, mentally ill freaks (all of whom she allowed to watch her kids without supervision), to those folks she gave food, shelter, etc., that should rightfully have gone to her children. However, those spent their own time and money helping her and her kids, there was very little gratitude or even interest in those people. She left she had it coming to her and took advantage of anyone who had the means to serve her. No, Isa was a taker. She believed the world owed her a living. That's the truth of it.

    5. Abe and Isa met when ABE was very young. Isa is quite a bit older than he is. He was a teenager and she was in her mid 20s. She was certainly old enough to know better.

    6. If Isa didn't want the public to "demonize" her, maybe she shouldn't have made her idiotic and inexplicable support of Abe public in the newspaper, etc. If she had reacted like a sane person, she would have thought of her children and stayed out of the public eye and the press. She would have closed ranks with her family and thought more of the impact all the publicity would have on her kids rather that defending the Creeper. Any woman who cares about her kids one iota would not long and beg for such a man to return to the house where her kids live. She is a sick woman and she needs help.

    7. I have 4 siblings and my house never was as dirty, messy, and unsanitary as Isa's. Why? Well, my mom didn't have random parasites living in the house, eating the food, smoking the pot (yeah, I said it) and contributing nothing to the household. My mom never left us with these random parasites to go to Reggae Night at Castaways or whatever else she did. For a woman with kids, she went out a hell of a lot more than people I know with ZERO kids, mostly because those people have to WORK and don't have the energy to party as much as she does. My mom made it her business to keep the house in order, the kids fed, and would NEVER have left us alone with people she hardly knew. This is a fact, so please don't try to deny it, OK?

    It's very hard for people to have compassion for someone who is her own worst enemy. If Isa was a 4.0 student, why does she behave with such arrant stupidity, selfishness, and carelessness? Why did she, time and time again, put Abe's interests before those of her children?

    I believe that you are a good friend to Isa. I believe she needs good friends, as does everyone. I have compassion for her, but she is the architect of her own misery. Sadly, that misery is inflicted on her children, who are very sweet, lovely people. I am in despair about their futures.

    FS
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    Dear Isa's True Friend:

    What you have said about Lisa's stepfather is so far from the truth that it's pathetic. You obviously don't know Lisa as well as you think.

    You should read Fred Smith's comments carefully. He seems to know much more about the "real world" than you will ever know.

    Fred also said, "I would never marry into that insane family. I am also not John Doe. That is a different person." Fred is correct on both counts.
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    Just to clarify, Abe's father was NOT a Surgeon or Accomplished professional anything other than a liar. He is nicknamed DOC...was in the army for a short time. Medic...dishonorable discharge. He has many children. He disappeared years ago due to allegations that he sexually abused perhaps as many as a dozen young children in a small trailer park in VT. This included his own children. Abe has been shuffled from foster care homes and detention centers. His mother was just as reprehensible as his father. Hopefully, someday his father will be caught as well.
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    It sounds like there's a lot of misinformation floating around here...the stuff that mythology is made of. I guess everyone has heard by now that Abe was caught in San Diego and that his DNA matches an attempted rape in Ocean Beach. I'm curious (and I mean this sincerely) what Isa thinks about this...
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    So people really want to know what Isa thinks, well I bet if she could just show you her tears running down her face, maybe we could get a little compassion for this women instead of judgement. WE all wish for the truth, well I am sure this mama wants to know the truth too. But for real Abe has not gone to trial, remember in the olden days, innocent till proven guitly, wow, we need to take a look at our judicial system, it is way out of wack!! People please do not judge.
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