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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik -&gt;

Mathematics (pure theory, that is) is the study of axiomatic systems.  Which axiomatic system you&#039;re studying depends upon your field of mathematics (geometry, topology, group theory, etc.)  Since any mathematical system relies upon a foundation of axioms (given truths), it is possible to call it &quot;exact&quot; because you can rely entirely upon deductive logic and your axioms, and (generally) declare a theorem to be true; that is to say, at the end of a proof, you can declare Q.E.D.  There is no ambiguity, if our axioms are true (and they must be, they are axioms), then the theorem must be true.

Generally speaking this is not the case in science, as we don&#039;t have declarative axioms.

For a more detailed explanation: 

http://padraic2112.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/mathematics-is-not-a-science/

Elliot -&gt;

I&#039;d disagree that theology is a good analogy for mathematics, because theologies assume there is a being outside the system dictating the formation of the system, and the field involves &quot;discovering&quot; the ramifications of the system.  In this sense, theology is a process of discovery (oddly enough, like science).  Mathematical systems do not have this characteristic - they are constructed systems, not discovered ones.  Properly, Mathematics itself is closer to philosophy than it is to either science or theology.  Theological systems don&#039;t have to be consistent (generally aren&#039;t, in fact) - you can have contradictory axioms in a theology leading to Mysteries.  You can&#039;t have Mysteries in math :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik -&gt;</p>
<p>Mathematics (pure theory, that is) is the study of axiomatic systems.  Which axiomatic system you&#8217;re studying depends upon your field of mathematics (geometry, topology, group theory, etc.)  Since any mathematical system relies upon a foundation of axioms (given truths), it is possible to call it &#8220;exact&#8221; because you can rely entirely upon deductive logic and your axioms, and (generally) declare a theorem to be true; that is to say, at the end of a proof, you can declare Q.E.D.  There is no ambiguity, if our axioms are true (and they must be, they are axioms), then the theorem must be true.</p>
<p>Generally speaking this is not the case in science, as we don&#8217;t have declarative axioms.</p>
<p>For a more detailed explanation: </p>
<p><a href="http://padraic2112.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/mathematics-is-not-a-science/" rel="nofollow">http://padraic2112.wordpress.com/2007/09/28/mathematics-is-not-a-science/</a></p>
<p>Elliot -&gt;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d disagree that theology is a good analogy for mathematics, because theologies assume there is a being outside the system dictating the formation of the system, and the field involves &#8220;discovering&#8221; the ramifications of the system.  In this sense, theology is a process of discovery (oddly enough, like science).  Mathematical systems do not have this characteristic &#8211; they are constructed systems, not discovered ones.  Properly, Mathematics itself is closer to philosophy than it is to either science or theology.  Theological systems don&#8217;t have to be consistent (generally aren&#8217;t, in fact) &#8211; you can have contradictory axioms in a theology leading to Mysteries.  You can&#8217;t have Mysteries in math <img src='http://elliottback.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://elliottback.com/wp/mathematics-is-not-a-science/#comment-50426</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 19:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I must disagree.  Mathematics is the greatest science of all.  In reality mathematics is the only exact science, chemistry, biology is merely just the study of patterns &amp; probabilit and evidence where mathematics can be rigorously derived through logic and the foundations of axioms. Math is the basis of all sciences, they physical science whether it be physics, chemistry, medicine could not exist without math: from the simplest addition to even the complexity of manifolds.  Karl Friedrich Gauss once said &quot;Mathematics is the Queen of a sciences&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I must disagree.  Mathematics is the greatest science of all.  In reality mathematics is the only exact science, chemistry, biology is merely just the study of patterns &amp; probabilit and evidence where mathematics can be rigorously derived through logic and the foundations of axioms. Math is the basis of all sciences, they physical science whether it be physics, chemistry, medicine could not exist without math: from the simplest addition to even the complexity of manifolds.  Karl Friedrich Gauss once said &#8220;Mathematics is the Queen of a sciences&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Squire</title>
		<link>http://elliottback.com/wp/mathematics-is-not-a-science/#comment-26347</link>
		<dc:creator>Squire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 02:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  Mathematics is not a science.. but just a tool with which we can understand and use laws of nature.. ..to creat something.. as in engineering.. or just understand the semantics of our universe..


I&#039;m looking for link exchange for my blog.. Im writing a sci /tech  blog .. anyone having similar blogs can message me at 

http://ejediknight.blogspot.com 

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  Mathematics is not a science.. but just a tool with which we can understand and use laws of nature.. ..to creat something.. as in engineering.. or just understand the semantics of our universe..</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking for link exchange for my blog.. Im writing a sci /tech  blog .. anyone having similar blogs can message me at </p>
<p><a href="http://ejediknight.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://ejediknight.blogspot.com</a> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://elliottback.com/wp/mathematics-is-not-a-science/#comment-26304</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 22:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word &quot;theology&quot;, of course, means the study of God (&lt;i&gt;theos&lt;/i&gt;)... not the study of mysticism.

Interesting idea, though.  Plato thought that mathematical knowledge comes in the &quot;flash of inspiration&quot; you describe because our souls are really recollecting perfect objects with which they were familiar sometime before our birth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word &#8220;theology&#8221;, of course, means the study of God (<i>theos</i>)&#8230; not the study of mysticism.</p>
<p>Interesting idea, though.  Plato thought that mathematical knowledge comes in the &#8220;flash of inspiration&#8221; you describe because our souls are really recollecting perfect objects with which they were familiar sometime before our birth.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott Back</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 05:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the offer Dossy!  I&#039;m actually graduating soon, this spring, and I&#039;ll be working in the fall for Morgan Stanley.  But if I ever need some connection with AOL Server I&#039;ll definitely drop you a line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the offer Dossy!  I&#8217;m actually graduating soon, this spring, and I&#8217;ll be working in the fall for Morgan Stanley.  But if I ever need some connection with AOL Server I&#8217;ll definitely drop you a line.</p>
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