Oblivion Nude: Elder Scrolls goes Mature (M)
Please note that this post contains pictures of trivial female upper body nudity
You remember the GTA sex scandal where a mini-game could be unlocked that simulated sex between the main character and nude females in the game. For that, Hillary Clinton got involved, and the game was yanked to put an M rating back on the box. Now, according to Joystiq, it seems like Oblivion is next in line for the M stamp because Bethesda included a naked upper-body texture on all its female characters:
In the process of trying to create a nude skin for Oblivion, I found Bethesda had already done all the work for me. They just covered it up with underwear afterwards. Please note, this is a realistic nudity mod, not a pornographic one. The file included removes the bra welded to the skin of females of all races, showing things as most people know they are in the real world after removing upper body clothing. It will not show every female in the game as topless. I do this because I hate government/society/whatever forcing companies to “protect our innocent population from seeing those evil dirty things 50% of them posess personally anyways” not because I’m trying to turn it into a porn game.
Fileplanet already has a list of other naked mods for Oblivion in what the media would call the latest “video game sex scandal.” In actuality, the ESRB is overreacting to the artistic development of character models, where people are realistically built up naked, then layered with clothes. Here’s a sample screenshot of the base texture which has so many people upset, because it’s a realistic depiction of the female body:
Bethesda Softworks \ Oblivion \ Data \ textures \ characters \ orc \ female
Of course, in the game, this texture *could* with a patch be used to unlock naked upper-body characters. However, they look completely non-sexual and rather silly, as the following photo shows:
Here’s what the ESRB says about the Oblivion nude mod:
The pertinent content causing the change in the ESRB rating involves more detailed depictions of blood and gore than were considered in the original rating of the game (the game already carried a Blood and Gore content descriptor), as well as the presence in the PC version of the game of a locked-out art file that, if accessed by using an apparently unauthorized third party tool, allows the user to play the game with topless versions of female characters. The locked-out topless skin was found by ESRB to exist in a fully rendered form on the game disc, but is not accessible in the Xbox 360™ version of the game.
Why should the game carry a nudity descriptor when this content is not part of any part of the playable game? There’s a difference between pornography and nudity, and unlike Grand Theft Auto’s intense sexuality, Oblivion’s nude models are used in the artistic process of creating the game.
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It does look silly, and it’s not a big deal to me…. how much titillation can you get from that mod.
It has nothing to do with Bethesda! I can’t believe they’re punishing them for what modders do!
Someone should mod a crappy Disney-game (ie, Ice Age 2) to include nudity, forcing them to slap a ‘MA” rating on it…
now this is really silly.
i don’t know the original rating, but i guess it’s been Teen or something that should not allow little kids play it. and point a teen who hasn’t seen a nude woman upperbody…
i guess the esrb guys are channeling their childhood’s painful feelings and their unsuccessfullness in sexual life on innocent games and gamers…
The Truth is Very simple, Mass Nazi Like Censorship is the new band-wagon. Its where alot of Mainly Liberal democrates are trying to make a name for themselves. Why do we let the goverment censor us!? I do not want to have to buy all my games from Europe just so I can enjoy the ARTISTIC side of life. Enough with this Puritan utopia ****!
Hilary, Liberman and the others can Stuff it! I want to see TALENT, if that means seeing an orcs green wang.. whoopdie do. Ive seen alot of nudity mods for various games, and oblivion is by far the LEST sexual. We ban books because of “sugjestive” words, but but we smoke our cigarettes and kill people without a second glance… one word describes the current MOB mentality… Hypocrite
Next time, for their next installation, Bethesda should have an official fully rendered topless playable character for gamers and in the process should get an M rating from ESRB, purposefully, hiding nothing.
That way everybody will be happy.
PS.
M ratings don’t hurt developers like Bethesda (they shoulda asked for it in the very first place) and kids can always wait to grow up!
confucious say: one who looks underneath shirt, will find nipples. Its a fact of life.
re-rated because this?!?!?!
dam.. stupid people and ridiculous censors!
the 4 ever utopia about the perfect and moral country…
aa! ridiculous, please, show more porn, because americans
lost the sense of nude and hard *******…
stupid laws. a big **** for politics.
I think it is stupid for them to change the game rating for what players do to alter the game. If they are going to change the rating of “Oblivion” because of this, then they need to change the rating of “The Sims” and “Sims 2″ because of the censor removal patches you can download for them. There are many other games on the market that players have modified the characters to make them nude. In “Morrowind” there was a mod that would make the NPC’s not only nude, but anatomically correct. The company that creates the game is not responsible for player made modifications and therefor should not be punished for the acts of players. If parents are offended by what is in player made mods then they need to get off their lazy *** and look at what their precious little child is downloading off the internet.
This is crazy. Anybody who played the earlier Elder Scrolls games (pre Morrowind) can tell you all about the fact that the underwear that now adorns the characters when the clothing is taken off is a new thing. The older games had full nudity for both male and female characters when the clothing was removed. What’s the ESRB going to do now go back and put a M rating on all of the pre ESRB games. These nazi game hunts are completely stupid. If these people would focus their attention on the real issues instead of trying to make the lives of gamers and game developers harder the US may actualy end up a better place to live.
Wow do i love being in Australia. We get things like oblivion a bit later than you guys, but there is no question of censorship ever in video games, people just dont give a ****. Same with the drinking laws, u guys have to wait till your’e 21 but over here the “Legal” age is 18 and the unofficial age is whenever you discover the effects of alcohol… anyway, i’m off to go buy some more games ur politicians have all but banned… have fun in the land of the prudes
IDIOTS! (ESRB)
If i could i would make mod that include nudity and *** for child games to show them how easily a game gets what they think of as adult. Its a bit sick that games where you can slice,BBQ and send your enemies into nothingnes and all other imangible things gets a teen rating (min age 13) (my country).
But a game where skin is shown gets a mature rating (min age 18) even if its the work of an outsider (modder) ITS SICK!
*wink* *wink* You know, I’m naked under all these clothes…
OMFG Dude whoever called Liberals and Democrats bookburners needs to take a history course on Conservatism and THE RIGHT WING…..You are a moron! With that said……TITS BOOBS YABOOS KNOCKERS CONES its all good…Half the population in this world has them……BIG DEAL! I’m thinking overused marketing ploy to make it so easy to unlock but hey the MADONNA controversy= SALES=$$$ has worked for alot of people and companies nowdays….Now…I got to put what file where to see those JUMBLEES? 8P
While I definitely agree with the premise of this article, I thought I’d point out that the ‘Hot Coffee’ mod turned GTA from being an already M-rated game to one which was rated ‘Adults Only’ (AO), NOT the same as with Oblivion, which went from ‘Teen’ to ‘Mature’. The big difference here is that the AO rating was a major blow to sales for GTA, because so many game stores don’t stock AO games. Changing the rating to M for Oblivion will have no real effect on sales, imo.
Frankly, I think in both cases there’s no real reason to change the ratings if an internet mod is necessary to access the ‘inappropriate’ content. But even more than in the case with hot coffee, there seems to be nothing wrong with what Oblivion did. Basically they made all their game models anatomically correct, so they look more real, rather than like dolls–then covered them up with clothing. Nowhere is there the INTENT to have people remove that clothing, even though everyone probably knew it would happen. Point is, no reason to hold Bethesda responsible for being meticulous in their representation of their players’ avatars.
Will not hurt Oblivion sales??? My friend went to Wal-Mart around the time this was happening and they didn’t even stock it anymore. Wal-Mart must be a too family friendly store to carry a M rated game. Yet they carry movies like Hostle.
It’s amazing how times change, we use to tell the governmemt what to do, now they tell us what to do. A bit ironic huh? As for Wal-Mart they just pulled Oblivion off the sheves to place little “M” stickers on them. Just picked me up a copy last night.
Ive had a strong belief that by 2020 the government will control what we say and do and think what we watch what we hear what we read and even what we play. Its like farenheit 451 where books are banned. Sooner or later the hipocrites and all the others will win and we will lose our games then our movies our music and soon our freedom. I say introduce this kind of thing to a kid early, what is going to happen. if you dont make it out to be bad the kid wont think bad of it and a kid wont get trauma cause they saw some breasts in a game or in a popup or in a movie. A kid will grow up and eventually see this kind of thing but if you make bad of it then the kid will fear it and if all kids start to fear it then the gene pool becomes stagnant and we start to die.
If a game is banned here whats to stop me from ordering it from the developers them selves or an out of country retailer or on Ebay. now a lot of games can be boght over the internet and just downloaded Steam runs its own store for its games and doesnt care what gets put up there so long as they are told about it. RWS (running with scissors) has gotten so much flak over its games and now they really cant be bought where i live from a retailer so i bought it on Ebay and now you can download it from other sites.
I could probably sneak into ESRB and see swazticas and hear the different ESRB members saying “SEIG HEIL!” To ban something or change a rating on something because of what was done by an outside community is just stuiped if you dont want to see that then dont download it. the only way for it to be accessed is if you willingly clicked the download button and installed it. SO SHUT UP! SIT DOWN! AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS. if a person wants nudity in their games thats their choice if they dont then that their choice too. you know what you did so dont complain its your fault. they just wanted accuracy and not flat-chested women. Im tired of hearing about this and all the others. dont try to make someone else think like you or be you.
Anyone ever hear of ‘A Puzzle of Flesh’, now there is a game if you want to talk about nudity. To fuss over some CG nudity is lame. Go to an art musium and you will see some there does that mean you have to be atleast 18 to enter? It’s not the case because it is not sexual. It’s just artistic nudity. Now does the game show sexual content with this mod? No. It’s just CG artistic nudity.
This is just pathetic, Oblivion deserves all the respect the world can give it!!!
Then one fine day a little company named ESBR screwed up our perfect world.
Won’t you let me LIVE!?!
Yeah this has to be about the lamest thing I have ever seen… ESRB WTF in gods name were you thinking? If your reading this i hope all you **** that rated this game just go jump off a bridge and die… go fall into a knife or somethin man… like you didnt see it happen in so many other games… the TORTURE and GORE would have been a good enough excuse but you had to pull titties into this… DIGITAL TITTIES… LMAO ESRB… you are the lamest people that could ever rate video games…
wow. **** all those sensorship monkeys. Okay, so the game is rated teen. And there is a way that you can make it so that you can see some rendered “boobs” on the female character. Lets be serious here. How many teens already look at pornography? A lot. Now, if they really wanna crank one out, which would be more logical? Downloading some porn vids of limewire or going out to buy an uber expensive computer game and mod a female character’s boobs off? For one, all the female characters in oblivion have faces that resemble dudes, and second, the only reason that anyone would mod off the clothes on a character anyways is for kicks! This is bullshit.
Murder the Government!
Oi Oi Oi!
Ah, I see, and here I thought the ‘freedom of speech’ act was to let people have a mind of their own, but in your cuntry it seems to be what you’re free not to do… You’re all well within your rights to be up in arms about this ****, but don’t forget: If you sit back and let it happen, it will get worse. If you feel you have the right frame of mind and everyone else’s opinions too, then run as an independant and fix this mess
It’s the way to make things better, and ANYONE can do it, so why wait for someone else to do it for you? You could be waiting forever. Why are people so ashamed of what they looklike anyway? I’ll leave that to you to decypher.
ya ESRB just so u know *** is already happening at the teen age and even back at 7th grade i remember people sharing sites of where they could watch some hard core ******* so whats some simple tits showing in a game where u have to choose to download it?!? the game developers didnt purposely make tits show on the game, instead some moder spent his happy time to make it visible!! atleast half of america is based on *** and just a simple statistic for ya moe than 75% of internet content either is or contains porn so ESRB what r u goin to do about people’s free will?!? u gonna out a rating on that too?!?!?
A little comment in defence of the ESRB. But first I’d like to point out that I think much of Western society is almost deliberately hypocritical in allowing access to horrific violence but not to the human body.
ESRB was established with the support of the game development community as an alternative to legally binding ratings like those that come with movies. This works well for the game development industry as they prefer ‘recommendations’ even if it keeps their games from the shelves of some stores. For a large period of time games went completely un-rated and when the government started to score points for attacking developers with more adult content there was the imminent threat of the banning of some games and severe restriction of others. The ESRB was a compromise that was more of a victory for the game developers then it was for the political point scorers. Its actually quite surprising that game developers were able to win a battle this significant so early on as well because at the time they had almost no recognition as a legitimate industry.
As for the issue at hand … a mod that unlocks a new blood FX that looks more gory would be a more serious warrant of a ratings increase in my opinion. We’re raising a generation who wouldn’t blink if they saw someone get shot but would have a negative reaction to their own or others healthy bodies. It stinks of conservatism and is something that we need to actively fight.
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They won’t censor Sims 1 and Sims 2 because they’re too busy rubbing one off underneath the keyboard to the actual pornographic content put in by modders. My mom had a MASTURBATION RUG for Sims 1. This chick would lay down and actually use a ***** on herself. Maybe if there’s an Imperial Guard *** ******* a female hobo in the Waterfront District, they’ll be too distracted to slap a rating of MA on the game. And don’t ask me for my mom’s number or I’ll slap you with an MA rating knocking your teeth down your throat -_-
And as for our freedoms and rights……we have the freedom and right to say what we wish as long as it can be monitored and censored by our government. It’s “You can say and do as you wish as long as it’s alright by us first.” To tell you the truth, we’re governed by idiots and are under the thumbs of idiots’ laws where the bad guy gets away and the innocent guy gets **** on. I’m moving to Canada >:( VIVE LA FREE MEDICAL!
One more thing……..****** ****** ******! Lets all give a big hand to Growlf, think I’ll help her with the Imperial Watch *** ******* the hobo in the Waterfront District. Nothing could be hotter..”Please sir, suck your **** to feed my children….just a little **** job for some gold.” Maybe even sneak a photo of the top ESRB female and male members and put them in the texture and mesh for this pornographic scene?
Anybody ever watch V for Vendetta? Fight back by demoralizing those who govern us, in any way…….and I guess later tonight the FBI agents monitoring this thread will silence me while I’m sleeping xD
The majority of you people are just too ******* stupid for words. Putting a warning sticker on something so parents know that little Billy could be looking at naked titties is reasonable. Comparing it to Nazi Germany is not. You think that being humiliated, tortured, and then sent to the gas chamber is quite similar to this?
You sick *****. Grow up.
Dude you are completely stupid as long as there are no nipples it isn’t rated “M” (or anything). I mean come on, my four year old sister has a Barbie doll that has breasts on it but it doesn’t show nipples its just blank just like the models on oblivion and is that doll rated “M”, no it isn’t you fucken morons, you can buy them at the local toy store.
God… people these days are so fucken blind and have no common sense.
Idiots…
Truth be told, it’s a double-edged sword. For Bethesda Soft, it’ll drive sales even higher, and for longer. For the ESRB, they protect themselves from lawsuits. And for us? We have a game that’s M Rated, can see artistic nudity in an already gorgeous game that looks as close to real as any fantasy game can get, and everyone that really matters is happy.
We get our game.
Bethsoft gets our money.
ESRB continues running.
Granted, it also means that the government has one more scapegoat they could put on the chopping block for their extremist censorship values and religious undercurrents. Yes, it means that we wind up having to suffer with an ever increasing amount of leverage placed against us as the gaming community is squeezed tighter and tighter into “God’s” restrictions. But, at least we have Oblivion to keep us company while we’re burning in Purgatory! *grins*
This is ridiculous! I’m 27 years old, and when I was a teen, the witch hunt was at least targeted at violence. I’m sure we all remember the fuss over Mortal Kombat. Today, it seems like people are more offended by a pair of tits than someone getting stabbed or shot. We’re talking about the human body here. So the developers made the models somewhat realistic. Big deal! As someone else mentioned earlier, it was done in an artistic sense, not a sexual one. Speaking of which, when I was a kid, the first picture of a topless woman I saw was in an encyclopedia at school. Maybe the encyclopedia should be slapped with a MA rating too!
i think ersb is completely overreacting, the nude skin doesn’t show anything. The blood was questionable for an M rating. when i first played the game i thought it was M. i have oblivion for the 360 and why do they make the 360 version M? Its not like they didn’t see the blood when esrb rated it. Now they’re sying that the game has too much blood and has scenes of torture in it. I’ve never seen any torture and its not like hen you slah someon blood gushes out of their chest all over the screen.
The Americans never cease to amaze me. In the country with the largest porn industry of the world, some up-tight politicians get to order some game company around for bringing out something with which you could possibly see some naked boobs if you tried your best to do so.
Let’s take black paint and paint over all those classic paintings which depict naked boobies, quick! Kids might actually figure out that little boys and little girls are not the same.
*grumble*
[...] Screw you guys, I’m going home… …or at least, I’m going home to my roots as a gamer. My first real gaming machine was a PC, and this whole “next-gen” console war is pushing me back that way, even though I have loved (and still do love) my original Xbox. Downloadable Content? Way back in the day, Al Gore invented what I like to call the “interweb”. You could connect your PC to the “interweb” and get all kinds of stuff. Ok, well at first all you could get was porn, but now there is a lot more out there. Almost any popular PC game made has mods that come out for it that are made by sad, perverted, lonely men who live over their parent’s garage. The mods are free, because these douchebags want approval more than they want money. They hope you’ll be so impressed with their hard work that you decide to send them some rare Star Trek swag. Their lamentable lives are your gain though, and the upshot is that you get lots of free stuff that extends and enhances the games you already own. Like the naked mod for Oblivion. The 360 and the PS3 will NEVER get that. Ever. So enjoy your high-def graphics, console owners, but know this, I also have high-def graphics…of nipples. [...]
At a certain Super Bowl game, a certain singer flashed a certain part of the female of the game. Here’s a hint: It was the BREAST game ever! Since then, The FCC has gone into overkill mode, censoring the classics you haven’t seen in a while (i.e the Godfather, DIe Hard, etc.); and worse, dubbing them poorly (i.e. While watching Die Hard, I was appalled when the most famous quote in the movie was dubbed to “Yippi-ki-yay Mother-Father.” Even so called “Uncut” movies have been editied for content. In fact, the only true uncut film is what you rent at blockbuster. It comes as no surprise then that the ESRB rerated the game from Teen to Mature. Thanks Parents…YES YOU! You parents control, or you are supposed to control what your kids watch and not overreact when say your channel-surfing and another female/male appears showing skin. Rather than handle the Super Bowl titty flash like adults, let alone parents, you gripe to
the censors, demading a reaction. Well we got one. Gone are the days when we could curl up to our favourite movies and watch them unedited.
And now the gaming world has come under scrutiny because of this topless mod in Oblivion. Ah, memo to ESRB: Yes, it was born in the game, BUT IT REQUIRES A THIRD PARTY TO WORK!!!
But its only one game, right? Where’s the harm?
…Sometime in the future.
“An Announcement from your newly appointed Censor Bureau. You will Listen.
“The following new changes will be made this day: Cheerleaders will be removed from football due to their inappropraite wear. Also, dresses will be lengthened below ankle. And kiddies: There will be no futher deviations from the dress code assigned to you by law. See page 3 of your School Decorum Guidebook. Note that any rebelling against the uniforms will be suspended or expelled.
“In other news, due to vulgarity of the Venus de Milo and that David statue by what’s-his-face, we have dreceed that all images dipicting nudity of any form will be disposed of and sent to the pit, which, as a result of kindling from offensive books and magazines, has now been burning for 5 years straight.”
This may be paranoia, but paranoia sometimes is a good thing, like in this case for example. The ESRB crossed one line by giving a game a rating it clearly does not desrve–I know, I have played many M rated games. Make sure they dont cross any more by making sure the FCC and ESRB stays well clear of natzism. Otherwise, that glimpse of a dark future I mentioned, may become a reality.
so this game shows womens breasts whats the big deal, European countries don’t seem to care much and Austraila as i’ve recently learned cares even less. so why should America and ESRB be so retarded about this cause they don’t see the real problems in the world. and as for porn or art this is def more like art. my Middle school takes the 7th grade class to a art museum that features nudes every year. why because they feal that kids should learn respect for the human form. its beautiful every part male or female. but we spend too much time with the bad about it. (ie: std’s, ***, and the other less glorious things) so I say lets start going back to the more natural things in life and as far as the world is concerend you can trow me in jail before i will alow governments to decide what i can see are say or read. also im fairly certain that everyone has seen a naked woman before the age of 18 and even more likely is the fact that it was a Huge deal when it happened aswell. the girl embaresed and the boy well he got popular fast XD. but if we just start becoming a little more receptice and less reactive we wont even need the “Stork” storties and other lies. we simple just need to be recaultured to the beauty of the world.
YOU SICK MOTHE FUCKERS
TELL HOW TO GET THIIS MOD OF YOUS IF DONT YOUR
ALL SICKMOTHER FUCKERS
I thinkt his mod is great it helps me to get a right hard ****, and makes me wank like crazy, oh yeah baby its ******* sexyyyyyyy. lol.
Oh yeah this mod is so great. Whats the problem with ESRB ?
Thanks to this game, I jerked so much tonight ! I was shafting my hard **** in my hand every second I played Oblivion. Wow thoses girls in this game are so fuckable, I would like to spank them in the *** and put some dirty semens on them ! oh yeah….. so good this game is !
WTF Hillery clinton. Why do they sensor stuff I meen barbie dolls are more grafic than this. This is rediculas just because some moder disided to uncover a texture you change the rating from t to m come on most teens have had *** by age 16 or 17. the contrys in europe dont have problems with this stuff so why should we. Its because of the liberals and democrats. so waht if i a 13 old year see some grafic content big deal most of the people in my grade have looked at porn before including me and onestly this stuff isnot even relistic it looks like 2 sacks filled with fethers. I think that we need to stop saying OMFG boobs! rerate to m
big deal this is bull and all because of the GTA thing. So in conclution ESRB just change the rating back because if you dont and other sencoring things letup people are going to get angry.
This is a grim prediction by who comented hear
â An Announcement from your newly appointed Censor Bureau. You will Listen.
â The following new changes will be made this day: Cheerleaders will be removed from football due to their inappropraite wear. Also, dresses will be lengthened below ankle. And kiddies: There will be no futher deviations from the dress code assigned to you by law. See page 3 of your School Decorum Guidebook. Note that any rebelling against the uniforms will be suspended or expelled.
â In other news, due to vulgarity of the Venus de Milo and that David statue by what’s-his-face, we have dreceed that all images dipicting nudity of any form will be disposed of and sent to the pit, which, as a result of kindling from offensive books and magazines, has now been burning for 5 years straight.
oblivion is a very fun game in which atristic beauty is shown. that is just the same with the nudity. almost half of everyone has them! why should it matter whether kids or younger see them, they are just a part of themselves! on another note, there are a couple suggested themes, but they never go any further than and wink. its not like a little kid is going to play this anyway…
OBLIVION RULES, ALL HAIL THE DARK BROTHERHOOD!!!!!!8>)#)
Does anybody really care or pay attention to these ratings anyway? Let them rate it what they want. I for one have never not played/bought a game based on a rating or even have looked at what ratings my games get. Furthermore, a responsible parent would research any games their children were playing first hand, they would not look at some half *** double standard rating system by who knows.
So let the ESRB and whichever politician feels like getting some press have their fun but lets not make a big deal about it. Eventually everything will get an M rating and by virtue of the fact that every game will have the same rating there will be no rating.
this is retarded if its locked unless using a third-party tool then it really shouldn’t change the rating
ESBR is full of people born back in the ‘day’. Even 20 years from now the time was totally different. Kids used to always be protected from **** like this and now in the present, kids around 11 or 12 are mature enough to know **** like this. They already know it, they’re parents already know, they probably don’t want them to. But they know they will find a way eventually, either through friends or through their older brothers. The people rating these damn games will slap an M tag on a game for showing a blood splatter on a wall, or when your able to slice a dudes arm off. Kids imaginations can overrule any of the adults minds in ESRB any friggen day. They will now think that a guy getting cut in half with a loose cable, would be the greatest damn thing they’ve ever seen. They hope with their lives that an exploding car crash will happen at any second!
They DON’T need to add a FRIGGEN MATURE sign on a game, because people on the outside are snooping through games and finding a way to sexually enjoy them selves with 3D characters. The game creators never meant this and more than half won’t even want this or find it. The only thing a Mature rated game is doing. Is pissing people off because we have to drag older damn people in the store and buy it while they stand next to you. Anyone who is adult won’t give a flying f*ck cause they’re able to buy it. But juust under the adult age have to deal with this bllshit rating thing and only because 3 or 4 people found a way to make a model naked. Oh no a naked model! WE HAVE TO ADD AN M SIGN TO IT! because we dont want children in their teen years and less to see what nipples are! I’m not doubting that more than half of the teens these years have fcked! and been Fcked! Teens are legaly able to buy condoms, Huh, they think M ratings stopping us teens from knowing what nipple look like on breasts? How bout how a ***** feels in the ******. Morons, thinking that video games will start teens getting into under age *** cause you can see nipples of a female? Or video games with violance corrupting our minds going into a killing spree maniacs life? Nah, but I tell you one thing, if there was ever somebody trying to kill me in my damned house, I atleast have a bit of knowledge to fight back and not hesitate. naturally from video games, their fun. Why? A fun game would be blowing things up and when you shoot someone there brains splattering on the wall and maybe walking in the middle of a couples ‘moment’ would be funny as hell when your covered in blood holding an AK. Especially when you get to choose their fate. A horrible game would be, only able to slash tires and they cant move, and only being able to knock someone out. Oh my god! Walking in on a couple while kissing, how…. retarded? They need to make the most sickest, realistic, horror, capturing and torture game in existance. Being able to choose tohunt, or be chased. and make it multiplayer while your at it. The Mature 18+ only sign WILL NOT stop kids UNDER AGE! I gaurantee. I have too much time tonight…
Wtf is wrong with you americans! maybe you have a different attitude to *** but, this is taking it a wee bit too far. The European games are still 15, but thats cos of blood and violence. And come on you’ve seen the photo it aint exactl a turnon like. And anyway, ive been buying 18-rated games since i was 12, this things dont mean anything!
this situation does not pretain to anything the esbr just wants to ***** at everybody because they havent had *** in a longtime
I’ve already comented on this once but after viewing many new and emotional points I’ve decided that this country is getting worse fast each year… Our men go to war… and Terrorist threaten thier lives dayly, but what does to goverment and the other bleeding hearts rant about???? poorly done Breast in a game that under normal cercumstances are not visable. lets get back to reality people and look at the world not a game. now I do play Oblivion and i will continue to but i also step back and take in this world we have because God only knows how long we will be able to live here. if those bleeding hearts want to get me on thier side they will need to look at the real issues: War, Economy, and espcialy environment. and i’d like every one that reads this to sit back and think honestly when was the last time you went out to the countryside and just sat and looked at the stars, and the hills, and every thing realy wonderful out there. Now did you notice anything??? i hope you noticed that it is quite aboit like Oblivion (minus the monsters) so I ask again why does it bother people that there are breasts in a game that is so realistic?? if you can come up with a reason other than "the children are too young" i’d like to hear it. Having siad that I wish you all the bast and Remeber slow down life is short.
DOES THIS MEAN THE SIMS 2 WILL BE ADULT AND NOT FOR KIDS
I SEEN MORE NUDE ON THE SIMS THAN ANY OTHER GAME
AND CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG, IS THE SIMS 2 NOT A FAMOUS GAME FOR YOUNG BOYS AND GIRLS ???? MMMMM
ERSB B..STARDS
Thankfully i’m from england and already own a copy so it makes stuff all difference 2 me, but the esrb are brain dead. i agree with all those saying that if oblivion goes up to an m 4 this, than what will happen too the sims? The sims is easily the easiest to find censorship free mods on the internet. You don’t even have to search for the mod to find it. Besides why would anyone whos age is lower than the required m rating look for this mod anyways?
Haha, those crazy ESRB freaks. They all deserve to be fired at by some wood elf archers ^^
This is just stupid, I could easily add nudity to some barbie game or other child game. Maybe I should warn them about that so they give it M rating!
LOLZBEWBZ.
If I’m correct, ESRB only changed the T rating to an M because of female nudity.
And yet, you can find plenty of male nudity mods.
The only reason for the M rating was female nudity.
Those sexist ********.
You know, someone should mod a lilo and stich game into have nude characters and se how bad disney gets it for pedophilic images.
cuz it would be funny.
and everyone hates pedos.
DUDE…. you cant do that you suck that isnt real iv tried and she still has a bra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what the i mean bethasoft wanted to create a good game but did nnot expect there game t say nude so every mother wont buy the game for there kid
anyway it was coivered in the first place you see unreal tournament 2003 there are a lot of nudemods for ut2003 but do you see anygame reviewer rating it to 18+ no so there however rated oblivion 18+ just wanted there company to look bad
to make things better make more nude mods and rate the god dam game to 21+
tes is the best rpg game in the world and no other game can compair nothin in the world can compair to the elder scrolls 4
OOOkk.. this is a really stupid reason to rate oblivion M! Im looking at a Fable case right now and it says sexual themes (example: the darkwood bordello). Do you know how damn easy it is to change the dude around in tatoo editor?? I will never try it but there is probably some horny chick out there who is givin it a good try.
the best example i can think of is the origional sims. You dont even have to get a mod to see a naked person in there! all you have to do is make someone take a shower and enter the cheat to move stuff around regardless of what its doing or what is happening in it. Rating? T!
the Sims 2 was a little smarter because they actually cencored people in the shower and even then, they are wearing underwear. yet like its been said above, there are tons of mods and cheats to get rid of that. Being an experienced hacker, i can change almost any game to be all naked ppl.
now, do you see them rating kingdom hearts M? or knights of the old republic? almost every one of the final fantasy games?? trust me, i know several ppl who do these kinds of things and if you know how to do it, they might as well rate every game with a charecter in it M.
i guess my points been proved.. Screw you ESRB
If this is what people are dedicating their time to, then the world is RETARDED. This is not the worst stuff. I could probably find worse stuff then this by searching “potato” in google with strict safe search on. This is only the start. we need to do something
Man, can’t wait for all the young gamers today to grow older and get into the Whitehouse. Then maybe their “we’re ok with it” attitude about the nude human body will help toss out some of this extremist anti-nudity BS. Can porn be bad? Sure. But showing the nude human form…give me a break. We shouldn’t be ashamed of nude bodies. We should be ashamed of them doing ***-Scat porn. Very big difference there…
Holy cow…speaking of ultra-conservative. This web-site censored the word j.a.p. which I typed in my post. Wow, they need to take the horse that’s pulling this Politically Correct bandwagon out to pasture and shoot it. It’s getting annoying.
It does look silly, and it's not a big deal to me