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	<title>Comments on: Trackback not Dead</title>
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		<title>By: JWK</title>
		<link>http://elliottback.com/wp/trackback-not-dead/#comment-1350</link>
		<dc:creator>JWK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 17:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One issue I have with Trackback is that, while it&#039;s a decent idea, it doesn&#039;t ever seem to be correctly implemented anywhere.

Whenever I send trackbacks from Wordpress, I always get the comment in the receiving blog looking something like

Trendyblog &gt;&gt; Blog Archives &gt;&gt; March &gt;&gt; Post Title
[...] because the result of these activities tends towards a feeling of [...]

the point that example is making is that it adds absolutely no useful information to the discussion, other than a link, and an incomprehensible, seemingly-randomly-selected blurb of text.

I&#039;ve even tried filling in the exerpt field, and it doesn&#039;t actually use it, it still sends a snippit that&#039;s nonsensical.

Maybe I&#039;ll get around to modifying Wordpress&#039; code to use the exerpt field, but I don&#039;t think I should have to do that -- it should follow some logical behavior in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One issue I have with Trackback is that, while it&#8217;s a decent idea, it doesn&#8217;t ever seem to be correctly implemented anywhere.</p>
<p>Whenever I send trackbacks from Wordpress, I always get the comment in the receiving blog looking something like</p>
<p>Trendyblog >> Blog Archives >> March >> Post Title<br />
[...] because the result of these activities tends towards a feeling of [...]</p>
<p>the point that example is making is that it adds absolutely no useful information to the discussion, other than a link, and an incomprehensible, seemingly-randomly-selected blurb of text.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve even tried filling in the exerpt field, and it doesn&#8217;t actually use it, it still sends a snippit that&#8217;s nonsensical.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll get around to modifying Wordpress&#8217; code to use the exerpt field, but I don&#8217;t think I should have to do that &#8212; it should follow some logical behavior in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland Tanglaos Weblog</title>
		<link>http://elliottback.com/wp/trackback-not-dead/#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Tanglaos Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 04:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Trackback really is dead - Sorry Elliott et al&lt;/strong&gt;

From a user point of view: Nobody understands it. One of the questions I get constantly is what is Trackback? And I get this questions from both new and veteran bloggers.&lt;/trackback&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Trackback really is dead &#8211; Sorry Elliott et al</strong></p>
<p>From a user point of view: Nobody understands it. One of the questions I get constantly is what is Trackback? And I get this questions from both new and veteran bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: JWK</title>
		<link>http://elliottback.com/wp/trackback-not-dead/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>JWK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2005 05:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer server-side because I fundamentally don&#039;t trust clients.

But thats not to say your way isn&#039;t good, too.

I&#039;d write a server-side query where it writes to a DIV which is already positioned where it should be on the screen, with the actual queries at the very end of code&#039;s execution, with errors supressed by the @ operator.

That way, if the queries failed, they&#039;d not generate messages, and the bulk of the page would have already been pushed out to the client anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer server-side because I fundamentally don&#8217;t trust clients.</p>
<p>But thats not to say your way isn&#8217;t good, too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d write a server-side query where it writes to a DIV which is already positioned where it should be on the screen, with the actual queries at the very end of code&#8217;s execution, with errors supressed by the @ operator.</p>
<p>That way, if the queries failed, they&#8217;d not generate messages, and the bulk of the page would have already been pushed out to the client anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott Back</title>
		<link>http://elliottback.com/wp/trackback-not-dead/#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2005 04:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you query from the server code, the user has to wait for the queries to return, or timeout.  If you do it with client side javascript, you get no wait, and the commentary appears when it&#039;s ready, or not all.  Of course, for any idea, there are 1000 good ways to implement it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you query from the server code, the user has to wait for the queries to return, or timeout.  If you do it with client side javascript, you get no wait, and the commentary appears when it&#8217;s ready, or not all.  Of course, for any idea, there are 1000 good ways to implement it <img src='http://elliottback.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JWK</title>
		<link>http://elliottback.com/wp/trackback-not-dead/#comment-1340</link>
		<dc:creator>JWK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2005 04:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Aside: I despise the acronym AJAX)

There&#039;s no need for Javascript at all.

XMLRPC queries would suffice.</description>
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<p>There&#8217;s no need for Javascript at all.</p>
<p>XMLRPC queries would suffice.</p>
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