Domain Name Registration Scam
I just received an interesting email, which “offers” to help me secure my .com domain name in the Chinese varieties .cn and .hk. It’s more of a threatening piece of spam, because it carries the fear that if I do not avail myself of their services, them or another company will steal my brand!
Subject: YOUR DOMAIN NAME (elliottback)’S CURRENT SITUATION
Dear ELLIOTT C.Back
We are the domain name registration organization in Hong Kong, ,which mainly deal with the domain names’ conflicts of the company in China and Asia regions.We have received an formal application online from one company named “TianHaiYuanTong (China) Investment Co.Ltd” who is trying to apply for the domain names(www. elliottback.cn www. elliottback.hk etc.) and the Internet keyword(elliottback) as their domain name and internet brand on Oct 6,2008.After our initial examination, we found that the keywords and domain names being applied are the same as your company’s name and trademark. These days we are dealing with it. If you don’t know this company, we doubt that they buy these domain names with other aims. We have not started the registration for TianHaiYuanTong company until now. In order to deal with this issue better, please contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
Boyce MengTel: +852-31757931 (ext8048)
Fax: +852- 31757932
Email: boyce.meng@hk-nsc.org.cnHong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: www.hknsc.hk
However, as far as I can tell, there is no such “Tian Hai Yuan Tong” company, and I am not replying. I advise you to do the same, and post any more samples of this spam in the comments!
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I just got this and wanted to check out if it was simply spam.
it reads as follows:
OTC7, 2008
(My Company Name)
Domain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in China.We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “..my company name……” as their domain name and Internet keyword on OTC6, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Martin.Liu
Tel:+852-31757930
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: Martin.Liu@hknsc.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
Hi-
I just received the same email for my company, http://vermontwoodsstudios.com/
Seems there is a new spam scam every day:
“Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in China. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “vermontwoods” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 8, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Bob Lu
Sponsoring Registrar: Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Tel:+852-31757930 (ext8039)
Fax:+852-31757932
Email: bob.lu@hknsc.cn bob.lu@hknsc.hk
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk”
Thanks for providing a place where we can compare notes. Best regards,
peggy
Our Finnish company just received this email:
(It’s crazy because our domain name is so long and Finnish that it’s nonsense in every other language.)
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “ourcompanyname” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 8th, 2008. Because this involves your company name or trade mark so we inform you in no time. we would like to confirm if this company is your partner, subsection or some one you authorized, if it is not, pls inform us if these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first or not, thanks for your cooperation, looking forward to your reply..
Kind Regards,
Jeff.Yu
——————————————————————————–
Tel: +852-31757930-8050
Fax: +852- 31757932
Email:jeff.yu@hknetwork.org.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
I just received a similar email. Has anyone called these people using the phone numbers they offer? The email reads as follows:
—– Original Message —–
From: morgan.zhai
To: (my email address from domain public registry)
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:36 AM
Subject: YOUR DOMAIN NAME’S CURRENT SITUATION
Dear (my co. name),
We are a domain name registration organization in Hong Kong, mainly dealing with the company domain names conflicts in China and Asia regions. We received an formal application from one company named ” Dongxing (China) Investment Co.Ltd ” which applied the domain names(www. my co. name.hk http://www. my co. name.com.hk etc.)and the Internet keyword(my co. key words) as their domain names and internet brand at October 13, 2008. After our investigation, we found that it is the same as your company name and trademark, so we inform you about this. In order to find out if it could affect you or not, we still have not confirm the third company yet, and if you think the domains are important and would like to register to protect it, Please contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
Morgan.Zhai
Tel: +852-31757931 (ext8023)
Fax: +852- 31757932
Email: morgan.zhai@hk-nsc.org.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
2008-10-14
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morgan.zhai
Otc 14 2008
xxxxxx
Domain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in China. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register“ xxxxxxx”as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 10, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Eileen.tao
Tel: +852-31757931（ext.8029）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: eileen.tao@hk-net.hk.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
2008-10-14
——————————————————————————–
eileen.tao
An der Grenze, ein Mann fährt mit dem Fahrrad vor, auf dem Gepäckträger einen Sack.
Zöllner:
“Haben Sie etwas zu verzollen?”
Mann:
“Nein.”
Zöllner:
“Und was haben sie in dem Sack?”
Mann:
“Sand.”
Bei der Kontrolle stellt sich heraus: tatsächlich Sand. Eine ganze Woche lang kommt jeden Tag der Mann mit dem Fahrrad und dem Sack auf dem Gepäckträger. Am achten Tag wird’s dem Zöllner doch verdächtig: Zöllner:
“Was haben sie in dem Sack?”
Mann:
“Nur Sand.”
Zöllner:
“Hmm, mal sehen…”
Der Sand wird diesmal gesiebt - Ergebnis: nur Sand. Der Mann kommt weiterhin jeden Tag zur Grenze. Zwei Wochen später wird es dem Grenzer zu bunt und er schickt den Sand ins Labor - Ergebnis: nur Sand. Nach einem weiteren Monat der “Sandtransporte”, hält es der Zöllner nicht mehr aus und fragt den Mann:
“Also, ich gebe es Ihnen schriftlich, dass ich nichts verrate, aber sie schmuggeln doch etwas. Sagen sie mir bitte, was!”
Der Mann:
“Fahrräder…”
Oct 15 2008
xxxxxxx
Domain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in China. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “xxxxxxx” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 14, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Kris Yu
Tel: +852-31757931（ext.8024）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: Kris.yu@hknetwork.hk
kris.yu@hknetwork.hk.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
Dear CEO:
On 15th Oct,”Doncar Group Investment Co,Ltd” sent us an application , they trying to register “ignesbags” as domain name and Internet Brand. They want to use this name to promote them in the internet and do the promotion Google and Baidu and other search engins. But after auditing we found this name been used by your company .
As a company registrar,it’s our duty to notice you that:during our auditing procedure we find out that the alleged “Doncar Group Investment Co,Ltd” has no trademark, Intellectual property, nor patent even similar to that word. we found that the keywords and domain names applied for registration are as same as your company’s name and trademark.
So one point need you to confirm: Whether this alleged “Doncar Group Investment Co,Ltd” is your business partner or distributor in China?
These days we are dealing with it ,and we only can keep your domain names safe in our auditing time .
If you are not in charge of this,please transfer this email to appropriate department.In order to deal with this issue better,please let someone who is responsible for trademark or domain name contact me as soon as possible.
Yours sincerely Eric Wang
Eric Wang
Tel: +86-0513-8011 8538
Fax:+86-0513-8011 8539
website: http://www.mordenwork.com.cn
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service company Limited which is the domain name register center in China. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “My Company” as their domain name and Internet keyword on October 08, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
William Han
Tel: (+852) 31757930-8002
Fax: (+852) 31757932
Email: william.han@hongkongnet.hk
william.han@hongkongnet.hk.cn
Hong Kong Network Service company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
Our Canadian company was also contacted by the Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited and we have exchanged emails back and forth. Can anyone say whether they are legitimate?
Oct. 8, 2008
Domain name&Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “companydomainname…” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 7, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support
Kind Regards,
Joan.yang
Tel: +852- 31757930（8042）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: joan.yang@hknetwork.org
wggmy@yahoo.com
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
I wrote them back and asked which domain names, they replied with:
Hello!
Thanks for your prompt reply. Domain names were open to be registered all over the world. Now, the aforementioned third party is applying the following domain names and internet keyword:
Domain names as below:
http://www.companydomain.cn
http://www.companydomain.com.cn
http://www.companydomain.hk
http://www.companydomain.tw
http://www.companydomain.com.hk
http://www.companydomain.com.tw
http://www.companydomain.asia
Internet keyword as below:
(company domain name)
Once you would like to protect or preserve them by registering ahead due to importance, one valid application form will be sent to start your prior registration. Or we are going to approve the application from the third party if your company does not lay claim to these domains. Please let us know if there is anything more we might be of assistance. Thanks very much and your early reply will be appreciated.
An introduction of Internet Keyword is enclosed for your review.
Regards,
Joan.yang
I feel like such a fool. I fell for this email and even phoned the company and spoke to “Simon Gao” - who is, apparently, a woman:
Dear Principal,
We are Govdm information technology Ltd, which is the domain name register center in China.I have something need to confirm with you.
we have received an application formally,one company named “Kasem Investment Corp” applies for the domain names
(thechartist.cn
thechartist.com.cn
thechartist.com.hk
thechartist.com.tw
thechartist.hk
thechartist.net.cn
thechartist.tw ) and the Internet Trademark(Thechartist)on the internet Oct 8, 2008. We need to know the opinion of your company, because the domain names and keywords may relate to the usufruct of brand name on internet.
we would like to get the affirmation of your company,lease contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible. Please let someone in your company who is responsible for trademark or intellectual right contact me freely.
Best Regards,
Simon Gao
Sponsoring Registrar:
Govdm information technology Ltd
+ 86 021-6460 7449
Email: simon.gao@govdm.com
simon@govdm.com
Website:www.govdm.com
I rang and spoke to her but it was very hard to understand her. I thought she was threatening to give away our domain names so went ahead and ordered the domain names myself through our web server in the US and another Asian registry - one that I could actually read the website. It cost me a small fortune.
This morning I wake to another threatening email - this time because I registered the domains through other companies and not their own. Now they are threatening to give away our Internet Trademark.
Trish
My friend jsut received the following e-mail, which seems very similar:
From: kate
To: info
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 9:08 AM
Subject: Your Intellectual Property
Dear Sir/Mad
On 17th.Oct. Marffex Corporation sent us an application , they trying to register “faune-flore” as domain name and Internet Brand. They want to use this name to promote them in the internet and do the promotion Google and Baidu and other search engins. But after auditing we found this name been used by your company . So we sent you email .
We only can keep the domain names safe in our auditing time , once over this period , we should accept their registration , So, please ask your It manager or responsible person to contact me as soon as possible .
I’m looking forward to hearing from you .
Yours sincerely Kate
Kate IT
Tel: +86-0513-8011 8538 ext 610
Fax:+86-0513-8011 8539
Email:Kate@mordenwork.cn
Bernadette
Here is another one.
Oct 17,2008
BikeBits NZ
Domain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in China. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “bikebitsnz” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 15,2008. Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Jessica.pi
Tel: +852-31757931（ext.8030）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: Jessica.pi@hk-net.hk.cn or Jessica.pi@hk-net.hk
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
I am going to ignore it but as a coincidence, I do happen to be doing business with a Chinese Company.
I will check with them
John S
I got one too. Really had me nervous for awhile. Glad I found this site.
From: boyce.meng
To: spaluzzi
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:47 PM
Subject: YOUR DOMAIN NAME (beadpeddler)’SCURRENT SITUATION
Dear The Bead Peddler
We are the domain name registration organization in Hong Kong, ,which mainly deal with the domain names’ conflicts of the company in China and Asia regions.We have received an formal application online from one company named “TianHaiYuanTong (China) Investment Co.Ltd” who is trying to apply for the domain names(www. beadpeddler.cn http://www. beadpeddler.hk etc.) and the Internet keyword(beadpeddler) as their domain name and internet brand on Oct 15,2008.After our initial examination, we found that the keywords and domain names being applied are the same as your company’s name and trademark. These days we are dealing with it. If you don’t know this company, we doubt that they buy these domain names with other aims. We have not started the registration for TianHaiYuanTong company until now. In order to deal with this issue better, please contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
Boyce Meng
Tel: +852-31757931 (ext8048)
Fax: +852- 31757932
Email: boyce.meng@hk-nsc.org.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
I wish I had found this site earlier, although, as I mentioned in my previous post, I now have the domain registrations and I feel good that I registered them through my own sources and didn’t have the scammers do it. If you are concerned about your Trademark then I strongly suggest you view the World Intellectual Property Organization website http://www.wipo.int/about-wipo/en/what/. The idea is that you register your trademark in numerous countries (though not all) through one source. You must have a trademark registered in your own country first and then you can apply to all or some of the countries signed up to WIPO. China is one of the countries. If you select all the countries it is extremely expensive to register so it depends how much value you place on your trademark and how financial your company is. If you select a few countries the cost is reasonable. A calculator is provided to determine the cost (prices are in Swiss Francs). It is a very thorough and helpful website.
Regards,
Trish
Dear ，
We are the domain name registration organization in Hong Kong, ,which mainly deal with the domain names’ conflicts of the company in China and Asia regions.We have received an formal application online from one company named “TianHaiYuanTong (China) Investment Co.Ltd” who is trying to apply for the domain names(www. xxxxxxxx.cn http://www. xxxxxxxx.hk etc.) and the Internet keyword(xxxxxxxx) as their domain name and internet brand on Oct 16,2008.After our initial examination, we found that the keywords and domain names being applied are the same as your company’s name and trademark. These days we are dealing with it. If you don’t know this company, we doubt that they buy these domain names with other aims. We have not started the registration for TianHaiYuanTong company until now. In order to deal with this issue better, please contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
Boyce Meng
Tel: +852-31757931 (ext8048)
Fax: +852- 31757932
Email: boyce.meng@hk-nsc.org.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
Yet one more, these people should get a life and make an honest living like the rest of us !
Dear Sir/Mad
On 17th.Oct. Marffex Corporation sent us an application , they trying to register “XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX” as domain name and Internet Brand. They want to use this name to promote them in the internet and do the promotion Google and Baidu and other search engins. But after auditing we found this name been used by your company . So we sent you email .
We only can keep the domain names safe in our auditing time , once over this period , we should accept their registration , So, please ask your It manager or responsible person to contact me as soon as possible .
I’m looking forward to hearing from you .
Yours sincerely Kate
Kate IT
Tel: +86-0513-8011 8538 ext 610
Fax:+86-0513-8011 8539
Email:Kate@mordenwork.cn
I got this mail too:
“From: colin.chen”
To: Lane
Date: 20.10.2008 9:42:06
Message: archaicmetallurgy Domain name & Internet keyword
Alternatives: TEXT/HTML
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register archaicmetallurgy as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 19 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Colin chen
Tel: +852-31757931 ext.8018
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: colin.chen@hknetwork.hk.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
2008-10-20
colin.chen
I checked out, that “@hknetwork.hk.cn” is a wrong e-mail address for the company. The right one seems to be “@hknsc.hk”.
This must be a scam.
Thanks,
Lane
We received a similar message. I checked out the domains hknetwork.hk.cn and hknsc.hk and they seem to be valid, but then I Googled ‘Hong Kong Domain Registration’ and the top hit was hkdnr.hk; hknsc.hk is very similar in look/feel to hkdnr.hk
I am pretty sure it is a scam and I am certain that if I chose to register a .cn or .hk name I would not use hknsc
Oct 20, 2008
xxxxxDomain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “xxxxxx” as their domain name and Internet keyword on oct 19, 2008. Because this involves your company name or trade mark so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon.
Kind Regards,
Walt.liu
Tel: + 852-31757931（ext.8051）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: walt.liu@hknetwork.hk.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
2008-10-20
walt.liu
I also received this message but thought immediately about spam and as always when I recieve such **** I google up some of the sentences used. This time I came in here and just got the confirmation I needed not to followup this any further. There's also more info about this and similar on
http://www.dougandrews.co.uk/?p=29
http://www.managingip.com/Article/1859503/Slam-...
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The message I got was like this :
Oct.21, 2008
xxxxxxxxxx
Domain name&Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “xxxxxxxxx” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 20, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support
Kind Regards,
Joan.yang
Tel: +852- 31757930（8002）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: joan.yang@hknetwork.org
wggmy@yahoo.com
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
2008-10-21
________________________________________
joan.yang
Yes I also received one of these emails as below:
I won't be responding…..!
Oct22, 2008
Domain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “MY_DOMAIN_NAME.COM” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 20, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Janet wang
Auditing Department
Tel:+ 852-31757931（ext.8018）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: janet.wang@hknetwork.hk.cn
janet.wang@hknetwork.hk
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
This is definitely a scam. I called the phone number in Hong Kong and it didn't work. And since I had emailed them back, they are now repeatedly emailing me. This morning I had two more:
>>Hello!
I’m sorry, but these domain names and internet keyword had been kept for you company for a long time, we haven’t received your application form until now. We are wondering whether you still need these domain names. If you still need to register them, please send us your application form; if you do not need them then we will confirm the original applicant officially.
Please advice.
Best Regards
Joan.yang
>>Hello!
Here you are informed of an expiration of the domain registration. Only because there was no reply from you, we have to confirm the original applicant and register to them in the following days. Any additional information you need to know, let us know.
Best Regards,
Joan.yang
Received 23/10/08
Domain name & Internet keyword Registration confirmation
Domain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company, Limited. which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “company name” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 21, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Andy.liu
Tel: +852-31757930(ext.8019)
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: Andy.liu@hknetwork.hk
Hong Kong Network Service Company, Limited.
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
I recieved this as well - seems to be a scam and thanks for bringing this out!!
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network service Company Limited, a domain name registration center in Asia.
Yesterday we received an application from another company for the domain names “XXXX.com” , but later we found your company is their original owner and this may involve your company name or trademark and this may cause confusion between your products and others’ , and bring about negtive effect on your company.Therefore we decided to inform you of this and check out your attitude toward this matter. We would appreciate if you can spare some precious time to settle this issue.
Thank you for your cooperation and looking forwards to your early reply.
Kind Regards,
Elaine.Wang
Elaine.Wang
Tel: +852- 31757930（8015）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: elaine.wang @hongkongnet.org.cn
elaine.wang @hknetwork.org
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
Dear Sir/Mad
On 23rd Oct. Novix Co., Ltd sent us an application to register “pss4u” with suffixes “CN” & “HK” & “ASIA” & “INFO” & “BIZ” as domain names and Internet Brand. Also wants to use this name to do promotion in Google and Baidu and other search engins.
But after checking we found that the keyword is being used by your company , we don't know whether you have business in Asia or China , and don't know whether need to keep these domain names for your company . So we have to inform you before we complete registration .
We only can keep the domain names safe in our checking period , once over , we should accept their registration , So, please ask your IT manager or other person who charge of this matter to contact me as soon as possible .
I'm looking forward to hearing from you .
Yours sincerely Kenny Li
Kenny
Tel: +86-0513-8011 8538
Fax:+86-0513-8011 8539
website: http://www.mordenwork.com.cn
From: charles.chen [mailto:charles.chen@hknetwork.hk.cn]
Sent: Friday, 24 October 2008 12:41 PM
To: *me*
Subject: *our* Domain name & Internet keyword registration
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in China. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “company name” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 23, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Charles.chen
Tel: +852-31757931（ext.8030）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: Charles.chen@hknetwork.hk
Charles.chen@hknetwork.hk.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
Just for kicks i replied to this guy. It's totally a scam. Be warned!!!
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Dear Principal,
We are Govdm information technology Ltd, which is the domain name register center in China.I have something need to confirm with you.
we have received an application formally,one company named “Kasem Investment Corp” applies for the domain names
(foreverinloveweddings.cn
foreverinloveweddings.com
foreverinloveweddings.com.cn ) and the Internet Trademark(Foreverinloveweddings)on the internet Sep 8, 2008. We need to know the opinion of your company, because the domain names and keywords may relate to the usufruct of brand name on internet.
we would like to get the affirmation of your company,lease contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible. Please let someone in your company who is responsible for trademark or intellectual right contact me freely.
Best Regards,
Simon
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Thanks for your timely reply,During the auditing process, We knew you have registered the domain name “Foreverinloveweddings ” and own the intellectual property,So we e-mail to you for confirming that whether you have consigned Kasem Investment Corp to register these domain names. according to your mail, you don't know them,well then, According to our working experience, there are 2 possibilities:
1. Kasem Investment Corp is a domain name investment company, they want to register these names before you and sell back to you to gain profits.
2. It may be a commercial method, Kasem Investment Corp is consigned by your competitor to register, make your clients confused.
According to international domain name registration principle,the domain name is takes open in the world,who register the domain name first,who will be the owner.I think you must know some cases about the domain names grabbed by the others or the third party, and also frequently happens internationally.
To avoid such things from happening. Government request us to audit and record the application during the process of registration. If the original owner company of the domain names have no objection for the registration, we could register the domain names for the Kasem Investment Corp. So we informed you this case and want to get your decision.
Pls consider it in relation to your company status, your future development and so forth.Hope you can give me your decision asap. so that we can handle the next step.
Best Regard,
Simon Gao
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Dear Sarah，
I am very sorry. Because there are so many dispute matters recently, which leads to the fact that I haven't dealed with this matter well .Hope you can understand.
I sent you an email form a few days ago, and i just want to help you to dispute this these dmain names. however, i still have not received your feedback. does it mean that you will give up to protect these dmain names? so can you tell me?
because the dispute time is over, we have to make a record. today that Kasem company applied for the registration again.we want to help you but we don't get your application contract, So we cannot help you to protect these dmain names, hope you can understand it.
You should know for the time differences,we can't comminicate with each other well. so I hope both of us can take some time to deal with this matter carefuly.
Best Regard,
Simon Gao
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I am simon, I apologize for the delay,
Thanks for your reply,We knew you have registered the domain name “com.au” and own the intellectual property / own the trademark “Foreverinloveweddings “, this is why we informed you. But now Kasem Investment Corp wanted to apply for other domain names and Internet Trademark you have not registered yet.
You must know Domain name takes open registration, this is international domain name registration principle. So Kasem Investment Corp has right to register them. As a domain name registrar, we have no right to dispute their application. So required by China government to inform your company to protect your interest. But as the company whose trademarks relate to the applied domains, you will get the priority to register these domain names.
Of course, each company has their own idea. If you don't think their application will affect your company, you can give up, we will finish their registration. But if you think these domain names are useful for your company, we can send an application form to you and help you register these within dispute period. This is the only way to prevent domain name grab. Pls let us know your decision soon, so that we can handle the next step.
Best Regard,
Simon Gao
October 27, 2008
xxxxx
Domain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “yyyyy” as their domain name and Internet keyword on October 26, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Stephen
2008-10-27
________________________________________
Tel: +852-31757930-8012
Fax: +852- 31757932
Email: stephen.wang@hknetwork.org
stephen.wang@hknetwork.org.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
I also received a similar version of the spam email (see below) 5 minutes go. As it went straight into my spam tray, I researched and found this blog entry. I also will not be following up the requests to contact them. I guess the website and email leads to mischief and the phone numbers to inordinate costs. I advise all receivers of similar to ignore.
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in China. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “my company name” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 26, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Charles.chen
Tel: +852-31757931（ext.8030）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: Charles.chen@hknetwork.hk
Charles.chen@hknetwork.hk.cn
RECEIVED ONE TODAY, HERE IN ADELAIDE, SOUTH AUSTRALIA, AUSTRALIA
I got one here in Denmark as well… found this page while trying to confirm that they were just scammers.
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Oct 29 2008
*****
Domain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in China. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “ *****” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 27, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Kris Yu
Tel: +852-31757931（ext.8024）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: Kris.yu@hknetwork.hk
kris.yu@hknetwork.hk.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
Thanks for the blog to make me aware of this….here is another one:
Dear Principal,
We are Govdm information technology Ltd, which is the domain name register center in China.I have something need to confirm with you.
we have received an application formally,one company named “Kasem Investment Corp” applies for the domain names
(catvet.asia
catvet.com.cn
catvet.com.tw
catvet.hk
catvet.tw ) and the Internet Trademark(Catvet)on the internet Oct 30, 2008. We need to know the opinion of your company, because the domain names and keywords may relate to the usufruct of brand name on internet.
we would like to get the affirmation of your company,lease contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible. Please let someone in your company who is responsible for trademark or intellectual right contact me freely.
Best Regards,
Simon Gao
Sponsoring Registrar:
Govdm information technology Ltd
+ 86 021-6460 7449
Email: simon.gao@govdm.net.cn
simon@govdm.net.cn
Website:www.govdm.com
Here's more of the same - I believe it's Spam, but it has me nearly convinced I should take it seriously.
Dear Principal,
We are Govdm information technology Ltd, which is the domain name register center in China.I have something need to confirm with you.
we have received an application formally,one company named “Kasem Investment Corp” applies for the domain names
(theprinceofwales.asia
theprinceofwales.cn
theprinceofwales.com.cn
theprinceofwales.com.tw
theprinceofwales.hk
theprinceofwales.tw ) and the Internet Trademark(Theprinceofwales)on the internet Oct 28, 2008. We need to know the opinion of your company, because the domain names and keywords may relate to the usufruct of brand name on internet.
we would like to get the affirmation of your company,lease contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible. Please let someone in your company who is responsible for trademark or intellectual right contact me freely.
Best Regards,
Simon Gao
Sponsoring Registrar:
Govdm information technology Ltd
Phone + 86 021-6460 7449
Email: simon.gao@govdm.net.cn
simon@govdm.net.cn
Website:www.govdm.com
Hi, I received this email a couple of days back. I searched through google suspecting that it might be a spam and this post helped me confirm it. Thanks. You can see the follow up mails they have sent in a threatening voice.
Oct 28 2008
sajuonline
Domain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “sajuonline” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Oct 27 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Colin chen
Tel:+ 852-31757931（ext.8018）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: colin.chen@hknetwork.hk.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
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Dear sir，
Apologize for disturbing, but we would like to confirm whether you have made a decision over the domains and internet keyword mentioned in the previous e-mail. Provided you still need to register them, instead of being applied by other company, an application form will be sent to start the whole operation.
Best Regards,
Colin chen
What a scam!!!
I just updated my ZoomInfo profile and this might be where I was put on the Hit-List?
Fraud Letter—>
“Kenny” <kenny@registryid.com>
Subject: Your domain name
Dear Sir/Mad
I'm sorry to disturb you so abrupt . We are a professional domain name registrar .
On 31st Oct. Novix Co., Ltd sent us an application to register “pdcaholdings” with suffixes “CN” & “HK” & “ASIA” & “INFO” & “BIZ” as domain names and Internet Brand. Also wants to use this name to do promotion in Google and Baidu and other search engins.
But after checking we found that the keyword is being used by your company , we don't know whether you have business in Asia or China , and don't know whether need to keep these domain names for your company . So we have to inform you before we complete registration .
We only can keep the domain names safe in our checking period , once over , we should accept their registration , So, please ask your IT manager or other person who charge of this matter to contact me as soon as possible .
I'm looking forward to hearing from you .
Yours sincerely Kenny Li
Kenny Li
Tel: +86-0513-8011 8538
Fax:+86-0513-8011 8539
website: http://www.mordendomain.cn
Thanks for your view on these people. I just got this and will ignore it:
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2008-11-03
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network service Company Limited, a domain name registration center in Asia.
Yesterday we received an application from another company for the domain names ” sevenwoodsaudio “, but later we found your company is their original owner and this may involve your company name or trademark and this may cause confusion between your products and others',and bring about negtive effect on your company.Therefore we decided to inform you of this and check out your attitude toward this matter. We would appreciate if you can spare some precious time to settle this issue.
Thank you for your cooperation and looking forwards to your early reply.
Kind Regards,
Amy.Yang
Tel: +852- 31757930（8014）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: amy.yang@hongkongnet.org
amy.yang@hongkongnet.org.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
I received the following email today:
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “yourchinatradingpartner” as their domain name and Internet keyword on
November 2th, 2008. Because this involves your company name or trade mark so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon.
Kind Regards,
scott.zhang
Tel:+ 852 31757930(ext. 8003)
Fax:+852 31757932
Email: scott.zhang@hongkongnet.hk.cn
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
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The following is my response:
Dear Scott Zhang,
In response to your email, which arrived this evening.
The web address of http://www.yourchinatradingpartner.com belongs solely to us, and should you or anyone else attempt to infringe on our domain, we will immediately inform our lawyers in the US and on the Chinese mainland to take legal action against yourselves or any other party intent on infringing on our domain.
We have spent a long time establishing our reputation, search and key word status to allow anyone attempt to steal that from us.
So, in short, and to reiterate: We will prosecute anyone attempting to infringe on our rights as the holders of http://www.yourchinatradingpartner.com
I hope I have made myself clear and to the point.
Thank you for your time and consideration in the matter.
D. Ken Stone
We receveice a similar offer !
We are a domain name registration service company in asia, which mainly service for international company's in Asia. We have something important need to confirm with your company. On the Nov 7th, 2008, we received an application formally. One company named Kasem Investment Corp wanted to register following
Domain names:
lunajets.asia
lunajets.com.cn
lunajets.hk
lunajets.tw
Internet Trademark: Lunajets
through our body. After our initial examination, we found that the keywords and domain names applied for registration are as same as your company's name and trademark. These days we are dealing with it. If you do not know this company, we doubt that they have other aims to buy these domain names. Now we have not finished the registration of Kasem Investment Corp yet, in order to deal with this issue better, Please let the Principal contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
Vicky
Just got one today directed at one of my clients — it had me stumped for a few minutes but I was suspicious and your post confirmed my suspicions. Thanks!
Dear VRHabilis, LLC,
We are a domain name registration organization in Hong Kong, mainly dealing with the domain names' conflicts of company in Asia regions. We received a formal application from a company that is applying to register some domain names with the keyword “vrhabilis” and register it as their internet keyword on November 6, 2008. After investigation, we found that it is the same as your company name and trademark, so we inform you of this issue. In order to find out if it could affect you or not, we still have not confirm the third company yet. And if you think the domains are important and would like to protect them by registering ahead, please contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
Monica.Meng
Tel: +852-31757931 (ext8023)
Fax: +852- 31757932
Email: monica.meng@hk-nsc.org.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
Received the same message and recognized it as a likely scam, too…
Dear VE3SUN DX Monitor
We are a domain name registration organization in Hong Kong, mainly dealing with the domain names' conflicts of company in Asia regions. We received a formal application from a company that is applying to register some doman names with the keyword “ve3sun” and register it as their internet keyword on November 9, 2008. After investigation, we found that it is the same as your company name and trademark, so we inform you of this issue. In order to find out if it could affect you or not, we still have not confirm the third company yet. And if you think the domains are important and would like to protect them by registering ahead, please contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
Whip.Liu
Tel: +852-31757931 (ext8022)
Fax: +852- 31757932
Email: whip.liu@hk-nsc.org.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
Thank you so much for your blog on this - I've also received a very similar e-mail and was about to reply (the sender asked for a receipt when the mail was opened) when I googled the Hong Kong Service Co Ltd and found your post. Have now decided not to respond. Thanks again.
Adding to the list to keep the wording up-to-date. Add bestweb-service.net/.org to the list of unprincipled scammers in China/India. Received this today:
From: mabel@bestweb-service.org
Subject: About “<<your domain>>” intellectual property rights ( TO CEO & Principal )
Date: November 12, 2008 6:55:48 AM EST
Dear CEO & Manager,
We are a domain name registration and dispute organization in Asia, which mainly deal with the Tudou companies' domain name registration and internet Intellectual property right protection in Asia. Currently, we have a pretty important issue needing to confirm with your company.
On Nov 12,2008, we received an application formally. One company named “Tudou Holdings Ltd ” wanted to applied for the Internet brand “<<your domain>>” and some domain names through our body.
During our preliminary investigation, we found that these domain names' keyword and internet brand is identical with your trademark. Meanwhile, it is in the special time of financial crisis. Many companies are registering and protecting their own internet intellectual property right in various methods.These days we are dealing with this case, I wonder whether you consigned Tudou company to register these domain names through us? If yes, we will complete the registration on these domain names. Or you do not even know this company what so ever? Currently, we have postponed this application of this company temporarily already. In order to deal with this issue better, please contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.
Best regards,
Mabel
Auditing Department (HK Office)
Tel: 00852 9566 0496 or 00852 9566 0489
Fax: 00852-8226 1011
Mail: Mabel@bestweb-service.org
Web: http://www.bestweb-service.net
Same letter just received:
Data Submitted From: http://www.xxxxxxxxxxxx.com/contact.shtml
Data Submitted At: /contact.php
Data Submitted On: November 13, 2008, 12:38 am
Name Monica.Meng
Email monica.meng@hk-nsc.org.cn
Phone +852-31757931 (ext8023)
Subject General Inquiry
____________________________________________________
Comments
Company registration notice
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network service Company Limited, a domain name registration center in Asia.
Yesterday we received an application from another company for the domain names �xxxxxxxxxxx� , but later we found your company is their original owner and this may involve your company name or trademark and this may cause confusion between your products and others� , and bring about negative effect on your company.Therefore we decided to inform you of this and check out your attitude toward this matter. We would appreciate if you can spare some precious time to settle this issue.
Thank you for your cooperation and looking forwards to your early reply.
Best Regards,
Monica.Meng
Tel: +852-31757931 (ext8023)
Fax: +852- 31757932
Email: monica.meng@hk-nsc.org.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
I went to the web site and love how there are spelling mistakes. Did a google search for “Monica Meng” and found her facebook page with stock photos. These people should get a job rather than wasting our time.
Just a ******* scam, a shame it's still not possible to email a real bucket full of vomit, these loosers would drown
We also have one, see below.
But of course this is nonsense. If you have registered your website, there is no way that a chinese company (or any other company for that matter) can steal your website.
This is a kind of phishing mail. Don't respond to them.
See:
Nov 13, 2008
Agralin
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in China. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “agralin” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Nov 11, 2008.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Tel: +852-31757931（ext.8027）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: leo.wang@hk-net.hk.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
Dear Sir/Madam,
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> We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “[my .com domain]” as their domain name and Internet keyword on November 18, 2008. Because this involves your company name or trade mark so we inform you in no time. we would like to confirm if this company is your partner, subsection or some one you authorized, if it is not, pls inform us if these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first or not, thanks for your cooperation, looking forward to your reply.
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Internet keyword introduction.doc 25 kb
Name: paul.an
Email: paul.an@hknetwork.org
Subject: Inquiries
Message:
Domain name & Internet keyword
Nov 21th, 2008
Hotpluto
Domain name & Internet keyword Registration notice
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “xxxxxx†as their domain name and Internet keyword on Nov 20th, 2008. Because this involves your company name or trade mark so we inform you in no time. we would like to confirm if this company is your partner, subsection or some one you authorized, if it is not, pls inform us if these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first or not, thanks for your cooperation, looking forward to your reply..
Kind Regards,
Paul.an
I got the same, with the exact spelling and mistakes:
From: william [mailto:william@bestweb-service.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:03 AM
To: domain
Subject: About ” genopro” intellectual property rights ( TO CEO & Principal )
Importance: High
Dear CEO&Principal,
We are a professional Internet consultant organization in Asia, which mainly deal with the global companies' domain name registration and internet intellectual property right protection. Currently, we have a pretty important issue needing to confirm with your company.
On Nov 19, 2008, we received an application formally, one company named “Honour Holdings Ltd.” wanted to applied for the Internet brand “genopro” and some domain names through our body.
During our preliminary investigation, we found that these domain names' keyword and internet brand is identical with your trademark. I wonder whether you consigned Honour International Holdings Ltd to register these domain names through us or not? Or is Honour Holdings Ltd your business partner or distributor in Asia? Currently, we have postponed this application of this company temporarily already. In order to deal with this issue better, please let the principal make a confirmation with me by telephone or email ASAP.
Best Regards,
william
Auditing Department (HK)
Tel: 00852-95660496
00852-95660489
Fax: 00852-82261011
Mail: william@bestweb-service.org
Web: http://www.bestweb-service.net
Naively, I replied and got the following:
From: william [mailto:william@bestweb-service.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:34 AM
To: GenoPro Support
Subject: Re: RE: About ” genopro” intellectual property rights
Importance: High
Dear Dan Morin ,
Thank you for your reply and cooperation. We knew your company has registered the domain name “genopro.com” and own the intellectual property, this is why we informed you. But now Honour company do not want to register your trademark or domain name “genopro.com”, they wanted to apply for other domain names and internet brand you have not registered yet.
Following are all the domain names and internet brand which are submitted by Honour company:
1. Domain name;
genopro.asia
genopro.hk
genopro.tw
genopro.kr
genopro.it
genopro.us
genopro.sg
2. Internet brand
Genopro
If you have no relationship with them. According to our working experience, there are 2 possibilities:1.Honour company is a domain name investment company, they want to register these names before you and sell back to you to gain profits;2.It may be a commercial method, Honour company is consigned by your competitor to register, they are trying to replicate your idea and let your customers feel confusion.
Because domain name takes open registration, this is international domain name registration principle. So Honour company has right to register it. As a domain name registrar, we have no right to stop their application.I think you must know some cases about the domain names grabbed by the third party,we also won't want to see similar things happen.
As the owner of “genopro.com”, your company gets the priority to register these domain names.If you think these domian names are important to your company,we can send you a dispute application form and help you to register these domains within dispute period,this is the way to prevent domain name from grabbing. Of course,if you don't think their application will affect you, you can give up.Each company has its own thinking,hope you consider it in relation to your company status and so forth,then make a decision so that we can conduct the next step work.If you have any questions, please contact me ASAP.
Best Regards,
William
When I told them I would not spend a penny, I got the following answer.
From: william [mailto:william@bestweb-service.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:41 PM
To: GenoPro Support
Subject: Re: RE: About ” genopro” intellectual property rights
Importance: High
Dear Daniel,
I do not know if you do not trust us or you do not value the Asian market.Obviously We know your choice,we will not notice you when the similar case happened in future.In addition, many thanks for your cooperation on our work.
Best Regards,
William
________________________________________
Cheeky bleeders. Is this illegal?- ive just had the phone call and im expecting an email. Unfortunately- my junior colleague gave them my email - they called whilst i was out.
I called back and spoke to somebody saying they are the Trade Mark Registry.The dialogue was exactly the same as the above emails. We are having a number of trademark issues by coincidence but it still smelled wrong.
Can i report them to somebody or shall i just play along with them to waste their time?
we got this one last night:
—–Original Message—–
From: jackey.zhuang [mailto:jackey.zhuang@hongkongnet.org]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:31 AM
To: jean
Subject: Light Jewels, LLC Notice
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network service Company Limited, the an official domain name registration center.
On Nov 23, we received an application from another company for the domain names “lightjewels” , but later we found your company is their original owner and this may involve your company name or trade mark and this may cause confusion between your products and others’ , and bring about negtive effect on your company.
Therefore we decided to inform you of this and check out your attitude toward thismatter.That is, do you want to protect these domain names by registrering them ahead or not? We would appreciate if you can spare some precious time to settle this issue.
Thank you for your cooperation and looking forwards to your early reply.
Kind Regards,
Jackey.zhuang
Tel: +852-31757930 ext.8012
Fax:+852-31757932
Email:jackey.zhuang@hongkongnet.org
Hong Kong Network Service Co. Ltd
Website:www.hknsc.hk
[...] Oh deary me. Seems I’m the latest one to get hit with the china domain name scam. Haven’t heard of it? Oh, this is a cool one. You don’t have to take my word for it, it’s been going on all over the place. [...]
Dec 1,2008
MYDOMAINNAME
Domain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in China. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “MyDomainName” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Nov 29,2008. Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Best Regards,
Leo.Wang
Tel: +852-31757931（ext.8027）
Fax: +852-31757932
Email:leo.wang@hk-net.hk.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Website: http://www.hknsc.hk
I actually emailed him back and he sent me a price list for the registration. Something like a $100 per domain. Crazy. Total scam.
subject: Intellectual Property
body:
Dear CEO:
I'm sorry to disturb you so abrupt . We are a professional domain name registrar .
We mainly deal with international company's domain business in Asia.We have something important to confirm with your company.On 12th December, we received an application formally.One company named “XingAo Group Investment Co,Ltd” wanted to register “signaturedigitalimages” as internet brand and “.CN/.ASIA” domain names.
During our checking procedure we find out that XingAo Group Investment Co,Ltd neither has trademark, Intellectual property, nor patent related to this keyword. we find that the keywords and domain names applied for registration are the same as your company's name and trademark. we need you to confirm:
whether XingAo Group Investment Co,Ltd is your business partner or distributor in Asia? If not , whether confusion with your business in the future ?
We are dealing with it.If you are not in charge of this please transfer this email to appropriate dept.In order to deal with this issue better,please let your supervisor for trademark or domain name contact me as soon as possible.
Best Regards
Cosmo
Room 908,
Hua Heng International Building,
No.99 TaoWu road,NanTong City
Tel:0513-8011 8538
Fax:0513-8011 8539
http://www.domain-work.cn
Received pretty much the same today regarding my domain:
2008-12-22
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whip.liu
Dear Sir or Woman,
We are a domain name registration organization in Hong Kong, mainly dealing with the domain names' conflicts of company in Asia regions. We received a formal application from a company that is applying to register some doman names with the keyword “hifi-writer” and register it as their internet keyword on December 21, 2008. After investigation, we found that it is the same as your company name and trademark, so we inform you of this issue. In order to find out if it could affect you or not, we still have not confirm the third company yet. And if you think the domains are important and would like to protect them by registering ahead, please contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
Whip.Liu
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
Address: 19/F., First Block, New World Bldg.,
No.18 Quen Middle Road,
Zhonghuan,
Hong Kong
Tel: +852-31757931 (ext8027)
Fax: +852- 31757932
Email: whip.liu@hk-nsc.org.cn
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
This is a total scam .
Our compnay in Australai has recieved 2 of these requests in the last 72 hours[for different domain names].
The first request was from a compnay in china and the second from Hong Kong Scammers
Hi. Got something similar and it went straight to trash
I did some more research about them and it seems to be fictive organisation.
If you know ICANN domain resolution policy, you know that there is nothing to fear.
This is from SpamAssassin:
2.0 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist
[URIs: hknsc.hk]
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Feb 16, 2009
[DOMAIN NAME]
Domain name & Internet keyword
Dear Sir/Madam,
We are Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited which is the domain name register center in Asia. We received a formal application from a company who is applying to register “[DOMAIN NAME]” as their domain name and Internet keyword on Feb 15, 2009.Since after our investigation we found that this word has been in use by your company, and this may involve your company name or trade mark, so we inform you in no time. If you consider these domain names and internet keyword are important to you and it is necessary to protect them by registering them first, contact us soon. Thanks for your co-operation and support.
Kind Regards,
Stephen
2009-02-16
Tel: +852-31757930-8019
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: stephen@hknetwork.org.cn
Hong Kong Network Service Company Limited
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
We got one of these, newly updated it seems.
Here's what I think they are doing. Domain kiting.
They are going in and reserving names, “holding” these domain names hoping you will panic, then when you go try to register the domains, they are “taken” (by the scammers of course) who can hold the domains for up to five days without having to pay for them. They then try to extort you for more money to act as the mediator between you and the fictitious entity that supposedly bought your domain names.
More on domain kiting here:
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/01/31/t...
And here is my flavor of this scam message:
From: Treey sunny@ntwifinetwork
To: xxxx
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2009 3:48 AM
Subject: Notice of Intellectual Property Protection
Dear Sir or Madam: 2009-2-15
We are a domain name registration service company in China. Yesterday we received a formal application submited by Mr. Steven Lee who wanted to use the keyword “mycompanyname” to register the Internet Brand and with suffix such as .cn/.com.cn/.net.cn/.hk/.asia/ domain names.
After our initial examination, we found that these domain names to be applied for registration are same as your domain name and trademark. We don’t know whether you have any relation with Mr.Steven Lee. Because these domain names would produce possible dispute, now we have hold down the registration of Mr.Steven Lee, but if we do not get your company’s any reply in the next 5 working days, we will approve this application soon. In order to handle this issue better, Please contact us by fax or email as soon as possible.
Treey
Attorney at law of Legal Department
Tel: 86 0513 8532 2060
Fax: 86 0513 8532 2065
Email:sunny@ntwifinetwork.com
Web: http://www.ntwifinetwork.com
Mail No.:xxxx
Thanks for posting these scam emails. It seems Mr. Steven Lee is very active these days. Received this email below.
I didn’t know about the scam yet and replied. Got a response from Jack that I should register the domain names first…haha.
Dear Sir or Madam: 2009-2-26
We are a domain name registration service company in China. Yesterday we received a formal application submited by Mr. Steven Lee who wanted to use the keyword “www.mycompany.com” to register the Internet Brand and with suffix such as .cn/.com.cn/.net.cn/.hk/.asia/ domain names.
After our initial examination, we found that these domain names to be applied for registration are same as your domain name and trademark. We dont know whether you have any relation with Mr.Steven Lee. Because these domain names would produce possible dispute, now we have hold down the registration of Mr.Steven Lee, but if we do not get your companys any reply in the next 5 working days, we will approve this application soon. In order to handle this issue better, Please contact us by fax or email as soon as possible.
Jack
Attorney at law of Legal Department
Tel: 86 0513 8532 2060
Fax: 86 0513 8532 2065
Email:jack@ntwifinetwork.com
Web: http://www.ntwifinetwork.com
Mail No.:339176
I also received one the same this morning but had remembered mention of such a scam so googled the 1st line and this page came up as the first link.
Mine started:
We are Hong Kong Network service Company Limited, a domain name registration center in Asia On Feb 26, we received an application from another company for the domain names mydomainname , but later we found your company is their original owner and this may involve your company name or trademark and this may cause confusion between your products and others … etc
And yet another e-mail was received by my company. We are quite ‘young’ and not totally at home so we did have a small shock upon reading this.
But after googling I found this site, and I ust wanted to say a huge “Thank you” to everyone who posted on this site thereby giving us the confidence to tell ‘Jack and Joy’ where to go!
As you can see, it is nigh on identical. Full marks for laziness!
Dear Sir or Madam: 2009-3-2
We are a domain name registration service company in China. Yesterday we received a formal application submited by Mr. Steven Lee who wanted to use the keyword “mycompanyname” to register the Internet Brand and with suffix such as .cn/.com.cn/.net.cn/.hk/.asia/ domain names.
After our initial examination, we found that these domain names to be applied for registration are same as your domain name and trademark. We dont know whether you have any relation with Mr.Steven Lee. Because these domain names would produce possible dispute, now we have hold down the registration of Mr.Steven Lee, but if we do not get your companys any reply in the next 5 working days, we will approve this application soon. In order to handle this issue better, Please contact us by fax or email as soon as possible.
Jack
Attorney at law of Legal Department
Tel: 86 513 8532 2060
Fax: 86 513 8532 2065
Email:joy@ntwifinetwork.com
Web: http://www.ntwifinetwork.com
Mail No.:352282
Isn’t there some government agency in Hong Kong these people should be reported to? I am assuming they are operating out of Hong Kong. At the minimum their account should be closed.
Thank you for this website….I just received this letter:
Dear (my name)
Thanks for your prompt reply.As far as we know, Yadu Investment Co.,Ltd want to apply for the following names:
myurlname.cn
myurlname.com.cn
myurlname.asia
myurlname.net.cn
myurlname.org.cn
And Internet Brand “myurlname”.
You would know domain name takes open registration, this is international domain name registration principle. So Yadu Investment Co.,Ltd has right to register it.
If you think his registration will confuse your clients and harm your profits, we can send an application document to you and help you protect these domains within our approving period. This is a better way to prevent domain name dispute. If you think his application will not affect your company, you can give up, we will finish his registration. Hope get your decision as soon as possible so that we can handle the next step
Best regards
Your Sincerely Joy xu
Many Thanks to all who have posted - you’ve saved me wasting further time with this prat.
The following is some correspondance I’ve been receiving from this company that apparently is requesting I regeister my domain name with them or I will loose my name in China. The last corresponance below states if I don’t fill out their form, than the third party will register their name. I mentioned that I plan on registering with a Registered International Company that specializes in Domain Names, however they still remain insistant that I register with them. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I’ve been corresponding with this person since February 18, 2009.
The following is my e-mails with this tingle.liu:
If you do not reply to our application form. We have the right to
The completion of their third-party
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tingle.liu2009-04-20
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???? David Zamora????? 2009-04-20 07:21:36???? tingle.liu??? ??? Re: Re: Re: floorgearinc for domain name Hello,Thank you for the informatin. Please do not finish with the third party as I am currently working with another company to finialize the registry.Thank you.Marie M. Zamora— On Fri, 4/17/09, tingle.liu wrote:> From: tingle.liu > Subject: Re: Re: Re: floorgearinc for domain name> To: “dzweissy” > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 12:22 AM> Thanks for your reply. We are also a national registry and> we can offer best service for your company. > If you do need these domain names, Pls return the form to> us within 3 workdays. Otherwise, we will > finish them with the third party. Thanks for your> understanding. > > > > tingle.liu> 2009-04-17> > > > ????
David Zamora> ????? 2009-04-17 09:20:43> ???? tingle.liu> ??? > ??? Re: Re: Re: floorgearinc for domain name> > Hi,> We are registering our name but we are using a different> compay to register our name. The are on the national> registry as a certified company that deals with> international registration for domain names.> Please feel free to contact me if you have any other> questions regarding this matter.> Thank you.> Marie M. Zamora> Floor Gear, Inc.> — On Wed, 4/15/09, tingle.liu> wrote:> > From: tingle.liu > > Subject: Re: Re: Re: floorgearinc for domain name> > To: “dzweissy” > > Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 12:21 AM> > Sorry to trouble you.We haven’t received your> reply and> > application form yet.do you mean that you want to give> up> > the registration?if so,we will sign the registration> > agreement with the third party.you will be responsible> for> > the loss caused by the matter yourself.if > > you can’t decide whether to register these domain> > names,please make a decision on the matter soon so> that we> > can finish the > > registration processes for your company.if you have> any> > questions,contact me freely.> > > > > > > > > > tingle.liu> > 2009-04-15> > > > > > > > ???? David Zamora> > ????? 2009-02-25 13:23:33> > ???? tingle.liu> > ??? > > ??? Re: Re: floorgearinc for domain name> > > > Please send us an application so we can register. > Thank> > you.> > Address:> > 92-1282 Hookeha St.> > Kapolei, HI 96707.> > Thank you.> > Marie M. Zamora> > — On Sun, 2/22/09, tingle.liu> > wrote:> > > From: tingle.liu> > > > Subject: Re: Re: floorgearinc for domain name> > > To: “dzweissy”> > > > Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 10:32 PM> > > Hello, > > > You must know Domain name takes open> > > registratio(Unrestricted), this is international> > domain name> > > registration rule. So everyone has right to> register> > > the(available domains). As a domain name> registrar, we> > have> > > no right to dispute their application. > > > So inform your company to protect your interest.> But> > as the> > > company whose trademarks relate to the > > > applied domains, you will get the priority to> > register> > > these domain names. > > > If you have business in asia or you want to> develop> > > business in asia in the near future, so I think> these> > > > > domain names are very important for you! Of> course,> > each> > > company has their own idea. If you don’t> think > > > their application will affect your company, you> can> > give> > > up, we will finish their registration. But if> you> > think> > > these domain names are useful for your company,> we> > can> > > send an application form to you and help you> register> > > these within dispute period. This is the only> way to> > > prevent domain name grab. Pls let us know your> > decision> > > soon, > > > so that we can handle the next step.> > > > > > > > > > > > tingle.liu> > > 2009-02-23> > > > > > > > > > > > ???? David Zamora> > > ????? 2009-02-20 12:53:35> > > ???? tingle.liu> > > ??? > > > ??? Re: floorgearinc for domain name> > > > > > Hi,> > > Yes, this name is an affirmed company that we own> and> > is> > > operating under these name and have no intention> on> > > releasing the rights to this name and feel that> it> > would be> > > an infringment on our part. Please feel free to> > contact me> > > if you have any further questions.> > > Sincerely,> > > Marie M. Zamora> > > (808)676-4369> > > Cell (808)754-3562> > > — On Wed, 2/18/09, tingle.liu> > > wrote:> > > > From: tingle.liu> > > > > > Subject: floorgearinc for domain name> > > > To: “dzweissy”> > > > > > Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 1:57 AM> > > > Dear floorgearinc:> > > > We are Shanghai Chooke Network> Information> > > Technology> > > > Co., Ltd, which is the domain name register> > center in> > > > China.I have something need to confirm with> you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have received an application> formally,one> > > company> > > > named “Tengfeng (China) Investment> > Co.,Ltd”> > > > applies for the domain names(> > http://www.floorgearinc.com.cn> > > > http://www.floorgearinc.cn etc.) ,and the Internet> > > > keyword(floorgearinc) on the internet> Feb18,> > 2009. We> > > need> > > > to know the opinion of your company because> the> > domain> > > names> > > > and keyword may relate to the copyright of> brand> > name> > > on> > > > internet.> > > > we would like to get the affirmation of> your> > > > company,please contact us by telephone or> email> > as> > > soon as> > > > possible.> > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Tingle.liu> > > > Tel: +86-21-62416070> > > > Fax: +86-21-62597835> > > > Email:tingle.liu@chooke.com.cn> > > > Shanghai Chooke Network Information> Technology> > Co.,> > > Ltd> > > > website:www.chooke.com.cn
Thanks for posting this info so I didn’t waste time worrying that the right to hold my domain name was being challenged.
Following the example of Ken Stone above, I replied with a strongly worded email which, along with those to a couple of alternative addresses, bounced back from the DNS of china-netcom.com. Why do they even bother sending these messages if they can’t receive a response?
Think I’ve answered my own question. Back in the early days of spam, I recall companies like this selling lists of email addresses to poor schmucks who thought they’d make money by doing mass mailouts. Seems China’s taken a while to catch up, but it’s probably your average Chinese internet newbie who’s being scammed here, rather than the people like us they target.
PEOPLE…the fact is the company sending these emails out to you is a legitimate Internet Service Provider in China and is doing what it can to make more money LEGITIMATELY! That’s right! This is not a scam that doesn’t deliver on what it promises. If you are stupid enough (unless you are conducting business in China) to register your domain name with them, I guarantee you will have a URL registered to you in Chine that will have either .cn or .hk suffix. You may never use the names but you will possess the right to get hosting for those URL’s as they would be yours.
“Scam” is a bit of a strong word…I mean, it’s a “scam” in that there is really no urgency and you are not likely a typical customer but clearly, there are enough stupid people in the world to warrant their effort. Good for everyone here on doing their homework and not getting all riled up over this email “offer/scam”.
Of course its a scam. They are lying that another party is interested in purchasing domains similar to ours. Their tactic is interesting though, since they make us feel that our domain names are special, but believe me, they’re not.
You have received an Email from Planet Group Online
The email was sent from: Henry
Email Address: william.henry@hk-nsc.org
Henry Wrote:
Dear Sir or Madam,
We are a domain name registration center in Hong Kong, mainly dealing with domain name registration and internet intellectual property rights protection. On Jun, 4, 2009 we received a formal application from a company who is applying to register several domains, using planetgroup-mags as the Internet keyword. After investigation,we find that you are the original user of the keyword. Such similar domain cases may involve your trademark and company name,and may cause website confusion and conflicts. For a responsible attitude, we inform you here and ask for your opinion. If you don’t mind,we will finish registration for the third company.
Look forward to your reply.
Thanks
Kind Regards,
Henry
Seems that these emails are doing the rounds again. Latest Scam received 17 June 2009
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From: “Landy.tang”
Subject: Domain name (xxxx) Register notice
Dear CEO/Manager,
We are a domain name registration center in Hong Kong, mainly dealing with domain name registration and internet intellectual property rights protection. On Jun.16, 2009 we received a formal application from a local company of your country who is applying to register some domain names with the keyword “xxxx” and register it as their internet keyword. After investigation, we find that you are the original user of the keyword. As this refers to your company name or trade mark, and in order to avoid the confusion and dispute on the internet, we inform you and would like to know your ideas, if you agree about this issue, we will finish the third company’s registration, If you don’t agree the third company to register, please inform me. looking forward to your reply. thanks for your understanding and cooperation.
Kind Regards,
Landy tang
2009-06-17
Tel: +852-31757931-8003
Fax: +852-31757932
Email: Landy.tang@hknsc.org
website: http://www.hknsc.hk
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